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"Incoming mortar fire! This is where you duck, fools!" - Penals
"We will be back!" - Shock terminators
"It's just a tank, fire!" - Shocks, whose submachineguns can dispatch tanks with ease
"Even tanks fear shock troops!" - Shocks who have just murdered a tank
"That half-track will carry us in style" - Shocks who are being carried in style
"We are guards infantry, they are dead infantry!" - Guards infantry
"Who stole my biscuit?! This is not the soviet way, comrades!" - Idle troop who had his biscuit stolen |
I’m just giving real game situations where the Panther doesn’t butcher lower cost tanks like Lago stated but outright loses to them.
Actually, the only way the panther loses to the T-34/85 with mark target like that head-on is if for some reason your panther has its ass facing forward, I don't recall it having a 100% chance to pen the panther, I'm sure panther has better accuarcy, and they have a roughly equal RoF. In conclusion, barring some insane RNG (like tightrope's KV1 hulldown test), there's no way the T-34/85 will win in that engagement, especially if you actually keep the panther stationary to hit its shots while the T-34/85 is forced to close in and risk missing.
small edit: I forgot that T-34/85 has slightly more health, which evens the odds a bit, I still think Panther will win in most cases. |
The problem isn’t even the IS2. Say your opponent goes Guard motor and has mark target, double T34/85s, a SU85, two maxims, a Guards squad and 4 7man Cons behind thicc sandbags. Good luck attacking this with a Sturmpioneer, 4 Volks, a couple P4s and maybe an Obers squad.
Soviet late game economy is too good.
Gasp, how dare an opponent have nearly twice the manpower invested in troops as well as be on the defensive and have good odds against my übermensch?! Heresy! |
Comparing China with nazi Germany... I'm sorry but you are drinking the CNN coolaide if you think there is anything in common. There's not, I could list off plenty of American companies people have boycotted or American politics etc but let's not go there.
China is an exciting new market and I'm happy if Sega can build a link there. There is definitely a hunger for historical titles with Chinese gamers as total war has proven. Three kingdoms is arguably the BEST total war title since Shogun 2, so let's keep this link with Japan and China going. And less toxic fake news trying to divide a wall between east and west.
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You know that Assault Guard the are even more expensive and are delaying the construction of T3 and T4. and Again the ridiculous excuses of poor design. Why do you compare the Assault Guard with the Cavalry. The Assault Guard is comparable to the Shock Troops and Rangers / Paratroopers. And they do not cost 270m. they cost 510 + 30 their price can not be considered separately. When the HT is removed, you can talk about their price. Let's everyone call-in infantry arrive with the HT and fuel for the paratrooper squads - this is was is really, really good if you time it right, will reduce spam and delay the construction of all tiers for all fractions.
Except you're wrong, you get the M5 halftrack rather early, 30 fuel is only a 1 minute delay on tech, and with their early shock value they can just walk on foot and be reinforced by the halftrack,as there shouldn't be much AT out yet. Later on you can upgrade it to serve as the best AA in the game, and send it to guard flanks from being capped by lone squads. |
We need one easy fix just make all rocket arty doctrinal and if someone want spam then go on pick doctine becuase now its real bullshit when as axis u can go for tiger or elefant and still have arty options or if u are soviet and in same time u can get is2 and katiusha this is the biggest problem in 4vs4
Ah yes, lets gimp lategame blob control and the only AT wall counters by placing them in doctrines, it'd be better to just make landmattress and calliope nondoc and adjust things accordingly, not that it'll happen. |
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I can't wait to see the Shock Troops UP thread, I wonder how he's gonna spin that one. |
You could then add Conscripts to T1 and stop Soviet lack of teching until much later.
Then T1 should have its MP cost reduced to 80 to match Wehrmacht, or starting manpower proportionately buffed, because that would just be a massive nerf to a conscript start, the entire thing would just as well limit the soviet opening options, what's the point of building conscripts if you get penals in the same building? |
True. T34/85 should be like a Panther, with almost zero dmg to Inf.
The 76 version should be the Inf killer.
Also, the hull machingun on both versions deal too much dmg, without any MU cost.
Can't really make any excuse for the T-34/85, but the 76 needs the good hull MG, otherwise there's no point in building it other than as a 90 fuel snare with its timing. |
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