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I think giving all heavies build timers would be a positive change in this issue.
Kinda silly that we click the largest and most powerful tanks into existence but have to wait for scout cars and kubelwagens to get built
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+1
this would also equal out the weird requirement differences across the factions. OKW needs an alive t4 for their heavies(except KT) and needs to rebuild it upon destruction, whereas ostheer only needs BP3....
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Fastest way to a heavy:
OKW (15+25+15+60+60+230-10=) 395 fuel for Tiger;
SOV (10+85+90+230-20=) 395 fuel for IS-2;
OST (40+90+25+230-20=) 365 fuel for Tiger, +10/20/15 if getting any tier buildings;
USF (35+20+120+230-20=) 385 fuel for Pershing.
So, even though I'd agree Pershing seems just a little bit too powerful at its current timing (solved by making it slightly more expensive and/or increasing its veterancy requirements to reduce how fast it scales imo), other factions do not get their heavies "way later". They are all pretty much in line right now.
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Was adding build timers ever an option or idea? I feel like it would be a good change for all heavy tanks. Adds a little delay, especially for replacing them when they get lost. In some team games you see people replacing them instantly
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Cuz it is well known no one build an ambulance and unlock bar or grenade.
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Cuz it is well known no one build an ambulance and unlock bar or grenade.
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Cuz it is well known no one build an ambulance and unlock bar or grenade.
He was just showing literally the fastest way to get to heavies, and it was just to show that the factions are pretty equal when it comes to timing
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This is a good suggestions. It would be interesting if all heavy tanks were made buildable at each factions "final tech" level/building when the current conditions were met (enough points, pre-req up, etc.). It would give the balance team the ability to adjust build times on individual heavies, and it should be possible to do; the T34-85 already uses this method, just with a 0-point requirement, rather than the 9-14 of heavies.
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I was actually showing that the Pershing does not come significantly earlier than other faction's heavies
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Was adding build timers ever an option or idea?
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Personally I originally wanted 0CPs + build time in either T4 or HQ, and it was definitely discussed, but for now we eventually went with the hybrid system. Ideally this would've coincided with changing the cooldown to start upon the unit's destruction, but in the end we found that wasn't possible sadly.
So in the end the call-in production of the heavies was kept, I think for variety and readability's sake (some HQs like OKW's would get a lot of units, it would be odd to have a buildable unit that can be produced only once, etc.), so for now we'll stick with the hybrid system and possibly do some small adjustments (like costs or other characteristics) and let the entire heavies meta settle for now and see where it lands. Making them buildable is always an option for later, if needed.
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Lowering CP reqs for heavy tanks was a mistake anyway. Should all go back up to 12 or so.
Failing that, have to build them would be great (increased cooldown/recharge time of dispatch ability is not sufficient)
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And add the same CP reqs for OKW KT also.
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Fastest way to a heavy:
OKW (15+25+15+60+60+230-10=) 395 fuel for Tiger;
SOV (10+85+90+230-20=) 395 fuel for IS-2;
OST (40+90+25+230-20=) 365 fuel for Tiger, +10/20/15 if getting any tier buildings;
USF (35+20+120+230-20=) 385 fuel for Pershing.
So, even though I'd agree Pershing seems just a little bit too powerful at its current timing (solved by making it slightly more expensive and/or increasing its veterancy requirements to reduce how fast it scales imo), other factions do not get their heavies "way later". They are all pretty much in line right now.
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I was actually showing that the Pershing does not come significantly earlier than other faction's heavies, to disprove someone else claiming it did, so adding the Ambulance and Weapon Racks into that calculation would only further prove my point.
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That is a non doc vehicle, so no.
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KT much earlier before others heavy tanks?
We realy need more cancer in team games.
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That is a non doc vehicle, so no.
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