How are Infantrysections since patch?

Jump back to quoted post6 Oct 2019, 20:55 PMPereat

Every time you post (stug life) I ask myself are you misleading people on purpose or just yourself bad at math? The claim you state is that axis pay more for tech.

Jump back to quoted post6 Oct 2019, 23:19 PMdistrofio

Third and final, you dont need FULL TECH to get grenades or mainline infantry skills unlocked, therefore pointless to mention, full techs involves heavy tanks timings but not grenades. Probably allied get cheaper tools than axis, if you take account how many squads benefit from the side tech itself.

Jump back to quoted post6 Oct 2019, 23:33 PMLoopDloop

You can't even compare allied mainlines' sidetechs to axis mainlines' sidetechs because the latter doesn't exist. You don't have to pay anything beyond normal tech requirements...

Jump back to quoted post6 Oct 2019, 23:19 PMdistrofio

I love people that try mental gimnastics and fail miserably.

Jump back to quoted post6 Oct 2019, 23:19 PMdistrofio

Firstly, OKW hasnt built T1 in your calculations. Witch is simply wrong, that doesn't count as FULL TECH.

Jump back to quoted post6 Oct 2019, 23:19 PMdistrofio

Second, VOID COMPARATIONS ARE NONESENSE. Literally, who playing UKF would not get an AEC?, or either bolster or grenades?. The argument is so invalid it should have its own thread of things that should never been said again.

Jump back to quoted post6 Oct 2019, 23:19 PMdistrofio

Third and final, you don't need FULL TECH to get grenades or mainline infantry skills unlocked, therefore pointless to mention, full techs involves heavy tanks timings but not grenades. Probably allied get cheaper tools than axis, if you take account how many squads benefit from the side tech itself.

Jump back to quoted post6 Oct 2019, 23:19 PMdistrofio

To mislead people you just twist facts like you just did, to let people know the game you show real stats with the complexity within them. But at least i had fun debunking your post.

Jump back to quoted post7 Oct 2019, 10:45 AMPereat

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Jump back to quoted post7 Oct 2019, 11:00 AMachpawel

I'm sorry but you miscalculated everything hoorribly. Ostheer, for example, has to tech so much more. From what I see You decided that all buildings ost has to erect are optional, which means that you can only play with engineers and mg42, panzergrens and call in infantry. It is impossible to do it and win against even much less skilled opponents. Partialy you also proved that there are sidetechs for ostheer with your post. The only difference is that with ostheer you sidetech to get units while with usf, for example, you sidetech to get upgrades. Maybe you should play other facions more?

Jump back to quoted post7 Oct 2019, 10:45 AMPereat

And yet now its you doing it.

Jump back to quoted post7 Oct 2019, 13:04 PMStug life

https://www.coh2.org/topic/96750/redirect-thread-faction-teching-and-timing

here all the calculation u want

Jump back to quoted post7 Oct 2019, 13:43 PMdistrofio

I see a lot of smoke but no fire, a lot of words but pointless, i see someone arguing about a theoretical match involving no units at all, a spreadsheet warrior with no argument. Axis and allied techs are just different and prices involved are not comparable, but as always some fanboi thinks the grass is greener on the other side and that is enough to start a twisted reasoning.

IS nerfs were simply a consequence of metagame. There is no need to blame it on the tech system. Even if there are unbalances in the tech system, those are just ment to force momentum on the factions itself or the game.

Jump back to quoted post7 Oct 2019, 14:07 PMPereat

Yes, those are the number I used.

In your own calculations:
OH: Full 1070/235
OKW: Full 1100/265
UKF: Full 1360/270

How in the hell do you time and time again claim that axis have more expensive tech. Your own numbers. OH<OKW<UKF . Any way you look at it. Total of all techs - axis is cheaper. Rush to last tech - axis is cheaper. T2 - axis is cheaper.

Jump back to quoted post7 Oct 2019, 15:35 PMVipper

Ostheer have one of the worst tech system which is linear, includes battles phases and building. Ostheer do not have an advantage due to their tech no matter how much spin one tries to put on it.

Jump back to quoted post7 Oct 2019, 16:47 PMPereat

No need for spins - Ostheer compared to UKF has cheaper tech, cheaper mainline inf units and more flexibility in tech (being able to forgo buildings). UKF used to have strong inf

Jump back to quoted post7 Oct 2019, 17:13 PMVipper

Ostheer do not have an advantage over UKF because of tech.

In addition UKF get FRP/Mortar pit/17p/1 Base gun/2 Base guns/ Anvil/Hammer perks with tech.

FRP? Yeah. But why you mention pit and 17 pounder ???

Jump back to quoted post7 Oct 2019, 17:13 PMVipper

Ostheer do not have an advantage over UKF because of tech.

Jump back to quoted post7 Oct 2019, 17:13 PMVipper

In addition UKF get FRP/Mortar pit/17p/1 Base gun/2 Base guns/ Anvil/Hammer perks with tech.

Jump back to quoted post7 Oct 2019, 11:18 AMPereat

Can you cite more specifically. For the end tech rush I only counted the buildings you need. I agree that leaves OH with only pios, Mgs and panzergrens but I have encountered such rushes to ostwind so it doable.

The other calculation I made to T2 I again disregarded the T2 building for OH since it is now made even more optional as panzergrens can be built from headquarters. An argument can be made that OH T2 tech counts only with the building present but then it would only seem fair to add the cost of unlocking AEC for UKF as well. So the fact that its cheaper for axis doesn't change - we just add more variables and would make the price gap in axis favor to the OKW T2 even greater.

Jump back to quoted post7 Oct 2019, 14:07 PMPereat

Yes, those are the number I used.

In your own calculations:
OH: Full 1070/235
OKW: Full 1100/265
UKF: Full 1360/270
How in the hell do you time and time again claim that axis have more expensive tech. Your own numbers. OH<OKW<UKF . Any way you look at it. Total of all techs - axis is cheaper. Rush to last tech - axis is cheaper. T2 - axis is cheaper.
How in the hell do you time and time again claim that axis have more expensive tech. Your own numbers. OH<OKW<UKF . Any way you look at it. Total of all techs - axis is cheaper. Rush to last tech - axis is cheaper. T2 - axis is cheaper.

Jump back to quoted post7 Oct 2019, 19:01 PMStug life

Spoiler, su and ost are both cheap cause they need to build and get no free stuff like powercreeps dlc, when u look at cost su and ost are balanced against eachother , while west faction are balanced against eachother