Jagdtiger not reliable anymore?

Jump back to quoted post11 Sep 2019, 17:30 PMblvckdream

Maybe there is some bug that counts the shot at the end of a rotation towards target as still moving? I noticed that it's usually those that the JT misses. Like when you order it to attack, it rotates the vehicles then once the vehicle is in range it shoots and misses. I dont't think it's a coincidence either. I sometimes used the JT for casual fun games before the last changes and it was insane how often it would miss. The "new" JT did the same when I played today. Even on ranges around 20-30 or sometimes even lower than that.

Jump back to quoted post11 Sep 2019, 22:33 PMthedarkarmadillo

Vulnerable as in are able to get in there and suicide bomb you unchecked. 2jt shots and 1 of anything else is enough to kill a t34 so unless it was cloaked when driving straight at the JT there wasn't sufficient support to counter the risk the Soviet was placing in their attack. Alternatively the ram came from a flank which is also fair game.

Jump back to quoted post11 Sep 2019, 23:02 PMGrumpy

IIRC, Stugs were losing their spotting scope ability when rotating to shoot. I think rotation does count as movement for anything without a turret. I haven't tried a spotting scope on a Stug in awhile so I can't say for certain.

Jump back to quoted post11 Sep 2019, 23:11 PMVipper

Imo Ram/off map is way too effective while relatively easy to pull even frontally (in 2vs2 games and 1vs1).

I would try moving redesigning Ram to be a skill shot that scale with veterancy.

Jump back to quoted post11 Sep 2019, 10:01 AMblvckdream

I tried the new JT and hated it. It's a clone of the Ele while being stuck in a bad doctrine. Really boring balancing. Barrage ability is complete shit, not sure why it wasn't buffed. Still misses a ton of shots due to how little the gun traverses and the constant rotating giving it 0.5 accuracy on many shots. Please change the JT again, the current approach is horrible.

Jump back to quoted post12 Sep 2019, 03:39 AMSwitzerland

Well for that try out you had a Jagd with the really fast movement speed stats with 80 range till the hotfix a couple hours ago. So you didnt try it or you wanted it to seem bad, congratulations you played yourself.

Jump back to quoted post11 Sep 2019, 23:11 PMVipper

Imo Ram/off map is way too effective while relatively easy to pull even frontally (in 2vs2 games and 1vs1).

I would try moving redesigning Ram to be a skill shot that scale with veterancy.

Jump back to quoted post12 Sep 2019, 13:47 PMGrumpy

There are many ways to counter or avoid being rammed. If you tried playing Soviets then you'd know how. Or you can just keep whining on the forums. Anyway, what does this have to do with the JT?

Jump back to quoted post12 Sep 2019, 06:30 AMblvckdream

And again I said 100 times that I find the new JT boring and that it might become more frequently used unlike the old JT which was virtually extinct. Boring isn't the same as under powered.

Jump back to quoted post12 Sep 2019, 17:13 PMSander93

A valid point, but it was a rather last minute change and the Elefant is (imo) a proven concept. I honestly don't know what else could've been done to make the unit more attractive without making it overpowered again.

These changes should make the Jagdtiger a lot more user friendly and will hopefully have a good impact on the meta by making it a viable choice for OKW in team games, which would allow Ostheer to pick something other than Jeager Armor.

Jump back to quoted post12 Sep 2019, 17:13 PMSander93

A valid point, but it was a rather last minute change and the Elefant is (imo) a proven concept. I honestly don't know what else could've been done to make the unit more attractive without making it overpowered again.

These changes should make the Jagdtiger a lot more user friendly and will hopefully have a good impact on the meta by making it a viable choice for OKW in team games, which would allow Ostheer to pick something other than Jeager Armor.

Jump back to quoted post12 Sep 2019, 17:22 PMStug life

jager armor comes with a very good doc, jt not as much (sturm officer is bad, and break through is situational, of map is not guaranteed to kill arty like stuka bomb, spotting scopes make ele a real heavy TD

Jump back to quoted post11 Sep 2019, 08:13 AMullumulu

it isnt this hard when u flank it with some t34 and ramm it or use mother russia and satchel it....not this hard when u play smart...

Jump back to quoted post13 Sep 2019, 14:28 PMSander93

The Sturm Offizier is a (very) good unit now imo with a lot of versatility (with vet it has good combat power, and the abilities and smoke grenade are really useful in support of your Pfussies) and it will get shared veterancy in an upcoming bugfix patch. Panzerfusiliers are really great infantry for their new cost and they can support the Jagdtiger with flares for sight. The offmap is pretty damn devastating to static defenses (it's not meant to counter howitzers) or is at least guaranteed to force the enemy to reposition or avoid a big area entirely. The new Jagdtiger is much more responsive and much easier to play with and more versatile.

Jump back to quoted post11 Sep 2019, 23:51 PMMr.Flush

Ram is not the problem. The new soviet airborne ability is. It give you zero time to react. Il2 has to be setup in advance, the rocket strike does not. All the top players are starting to abuse it.

Jump back to quoted post13 Sep 2019, 14:46 PMStug life

just compare it to commissar, less hp, worse RA, worse abilities(mass pin/retreart for 45 mun vs 1 squad retreat for 60 mun and it has medic supply) and it cost 20 mp more, at vet 2 it loses to penal (315 mp vs 300)

i still think making the abilities less clunky is needed and again i don't think it will replace jager armor it just much better doc over all

Jump back to quoted post13 Sep 2019, 14:59 PMAcidfreak

If you see tightrope's video you would have known it scales better with veterancy. At vet 5 officer model gets a stg.

Jump back to quoted post13 Sep 2019, 15:32 PMStug life

yep only at vet 5 , up until then it has a pistol, give the stg form the start