No.
Autofire is completely different from barrage and early scott would be broken.
Scott in LT or CP as the OKW Walking stuka.
5 Sep 2019, 03:38 AM
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5 Sep 2019, 07:06 AM
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Currently, I have four undisputable top ten players all telling me that USF is going to be OP in the upcoming patch, after playing numerous competitive mod preview games against each other.
So why don't you nerf even more USF?
Is it the same group of Top10 players who let the JLI break the game for 2 months and half, same group who agree on giving OKW free no tech/no micro flares to OKW and then abuse the shit out of it? I have the feeling that when it comes to USF we always heard the same story -The faction is going to be OP- then we see it being the least used faction in tournament.
Last time I remember USF doing something on tournament was a King of the Hill and the specific doctrine nerfed less than a week after.
5 Sep 2019, 07:53 AM
#83
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Hehe 4 players say usf op, then tournament comes and its always axis vs soviets (brits in team games). No wonder balance is shit when you cant even judge results with logic.
5 Sep 2019, 10:24 AM
#84
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So why don't you nerf even more USF?
Is it the same group of Top10 players who let the JLI break the game for 2 months and half, same group who agree on giving OKW free no tech/no micro flares to OKW and then abuse the shit out of it? I have the feeling that when it comes to USF we always heard the same story -The faction is going to be OP- then we see it being the least used faction in tournament.
Last time I remember USF doing something on tournament was a King of the Hill and the specific doctrine nerfed less than a week after.
But he did not ask the other 4 players, members of the Masters Cup finals. Scotch, Noggano, VonAsten, Isuldur, why they did not want to play for the USF. Why the USF is still not popular in team modes. Why the USF still has the worst results in team tournaments. The problem is completely ignored by the developers. You can notice he said nothing about it.
Perhaps in 2018, other people worked in the development team there. Because now something strange is happening.
Driver, let's get this show on the road.
5 Sep 2019, 15:33 PM
#85
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Because now something strange is happening.
Or you are biased and wrong, dont discount that "remote" possibility.
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5 Sep 2019, 15:52 PM
#86
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both mod team, actual player that play all faction, AND FUCKING RELIC said we can close this thread so
/THREAD
/THREAD
katitof-2018
Katitof-2018
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5 Sep 2019, 18:02 PM
#87
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For RTS, tournaments maybe the best basis for balance. Games between those who bring the best out of the factions are of value.
5 Sep 2019, 18:49 PM
#88
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For RTS, tournaments maybe the best basis for balance. Games between those who bring the best out of the factions are of value.
Wrong, tournaments are a competitive stance, it is not a good place to find if the game is being fun.
With regards of balance, most players post their 'feelings' about the game and that is basically positive/negative game enjoyment.
Game balance is based on logic and statistic, tournaments are a very small sample of a very specific style of play.
Dont spread misinformation
5 Sep 2019, 18:49 PM
#89
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For RTS, tournaments maybe the best basis for balance. Games between those who bring the best out of the factions are of value.
No because
A) They are of limited sample size
B) Balance should not just consider the experience of the top 1%
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5 Sep 2019, 19:22 PM
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Is this thread even about the scott and walking stuka anymore?
6 Sep 2019, 17:46 PM
#91
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Is this thread even about the scott and walking stuka anymore?
No, it looks like the hope that some 4v4 USF players had for getting something out of this patch turned into the despair of realizing that they're not going to get anything that would help USF and their crutch units are all being nerfed.
6 Sep 2019, 18:14 PM
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rifle getting nerfed ?
No, it looks like the hope that some 4v4 USF players had for getting something out of this patch turned into the despair of realizing that they're not going to get anything that would help USF and their crutch units are all being nerfed.
katitof-2018
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Katitof-2018
6 Sep 2019, 18:32 PM
#93
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rifle getting nerfed ?
You think rifles are late game crutch units for USF in 4v4's?
6 Sep 2019, 20:01 PM
#94
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Driver, let's get this show on the road.
7 Sep 2019, 02:56 AM
#95
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Is this thread even about the scott and walking stuka anymore?
REEEEEEEE USF OP
REEEEEEEE USF NOT OP
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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7 Sep 2019, 13:56 PM
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11 Sep 2019, 15:52 PM
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Game balance is based on logic and statistics
What logic or statistics could have OKW art flares alive for years?
11 Sep 2019, 17:17 PM
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What logic or statistics could have OKW art flares alive for years?
Win rate being roughly equal.
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11 Sep 2019, 17:28 PM
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If you dont understand how Elo based matchmaking works, better take the advice from guy who posted winrates and dont draw conclusions.
19 Sep 2019, 15:40 PM
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Win rate being roughly equal.
Please show the actual win rate of those art flares spammers in team game. Whole win rate make no sense. I could say most games I played using art flares spam I could win. Meanwhile, most games play against art flares spammer I would have a very high chance to lose if the game last for more than 30 minutes.
By logic, never should a cheap, low CD, one-click anywhere, large ratio, long duration, uncountable map hack be exist in an RTS.
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Osinyagov: Suddenly, coh2 is slowly dying, but you can play it, playerbase still big enough
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Willy Pete: @Rosbone not dead yet. when that happens the font will switch to Papyrus 
02 Apr 2025, 00:16 AM
02 Apr 2025, 00:16 AM
aerafield: yeah I already prepared my "Can't believe there's comic mode for the 10 daily visitors even on this April 1st" 
01 Apr 2025, 20:29 PM
01 Apr 2025, 20:29 PM
Lady Xenarra: Does anyone else think that USF needs buffs? It feels like they’re on life support sometimes
01 Apr 2025, 02:36 AM
01 Apr 2025, 02:36 AM
Willy Pete: @Rosbone Ahh I missed that memo. I still think its a bad decision though. Adds frustration for players and isnt gonna make them that much money
27 Mar 2025, 15:46 PM
27 Mar 2025, 15:46 PM
Rosbone: It is also good they left it free until after the free to play weekend. Points for that.
27 Mar 2025, 09:34 AM
27 Mar 2025, 09:34 AM
Rosbone: But I agree, the cost to get a full decent Coh game pushing $115 US is not the best idea. Especially when it needs so much more work for casuals.
27 Mar 2025, 09:32 AM
27 Mar 2025, 09:32 AM
Rosbone: To be fair, it was a thank you to early fans right? They said it was not free for long and it would become a pay DLC at some point.
27 Mar 2025, 09:30 AM
27 Mar 2025, 09:30 AM
Willy Pete: Re-releasing free DLC so they can charge new players money for it. Brilliant marketing strategy 
27 Mar 2025, 04:31 AM
27 Mar 2025, 04:31 AM
Rosbone: Congrats to Relic. Looks like Coh3 has finally usurped Coh2 s the popular Coh. You smell terrific. 
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24 Mar 2025, 02:46 AM
.24 Mar 2025, 02:46 AM
Nickbn: and again someone else replies. I mean come on guys. Give @adamírcz a chance
22 Mar 2025, 14:00 PM
22 Mar 2025, 14:00 PM
Nickbn: @Rosbone it's incredibly rude to speak on someone elses behalf, especially when a question is directly adressed to them. I understand your passion for the subject at hand but I want to hear from him.
20 Mar 2025, 10:16 AM
20 Mar 2025, 10:16 AM
Rosbone: @Nickbn No, I am just saying people should not be using any Relic owned forum since they have proven they ban anyone who says true things about Coh3.
18 Mar 2025, 19:01 PM
18 Mar 2025, 19:01 PM
Nickbn: @Rosbone do you speak on his behalf? I didn't know. In that case keep us updated please.
18 Mar 2025, 16:47 PM
18 Mar 2025, 16:47 PM
Rosbone: @Nickbn True except, the only people on the Relic Discord/Reddit/Steam are brain washed monkey zealots. They wont even understand what @adamírcz is talking about. Anyone else is banned.
16 Mar 2025, 17:54 PM
16 Mar 2025, 17:54 PM
Nickbn: @adamírcz might be a better idea to voice this to relic directly than to voice it here, in a shoutbox of a nearly deade fansite #justsaying...
16 Mar 2025, 16:36 PM
16 Mar 2025, 16:36 PM
adamírcz: So, I just got a leaver penalty without even getting onto the loading screen because of the game disconnecting, bravo Relic
14 Mar 2025, 10:45 AM
14 Mar 2025, 10:45 AM
Rosbone: It is an indicator of the very short sighted capitalist view that plagues any company where leadership does not understand the product.
13 Mar 2025, 20:00 PM
13 Mar 2025, 20:00 PM
Rosbone: They dont care about Coh3 or Coh in general. They are just trying to grab cash by ripping off the small user base they have.
13 Mar 2025, 19:58 PM
13 Mar 2025, 19:58 PM
Rosbone: It is clear they crapped out an unfinished game. And are now barely supporting it as they make new smaller games. Coh3 is stillborn. It will be meh for at least another 2-4 years. Meaning they killed the whole franchise instead of growing it.
13 Mar 2025, 19:56 PM
13 Mar 2025, 19:56 PM
Rosbone: If I did play coh3 and was mainly a skirmish player, I would be pissed and probably stop playing. And it has been like this since release. Why? I would not tell my friends to buy a game I am not even playing. Lost sales and angered users.
13 Mar 2025, 19:53 PM
13 Mar 2025, 19:53 PM
Rosbone: I am just saddened how Relic keeps hurting themselves by not fixing 5 minute things like menus. Why anger users with stuff that could be fixed in minutes???
13 Mar 2025, 19:50 PM
13 Mar 2025, 19:50 PM
Rosbone: I was wondering why people think I was raging. I think it was when I said "because coh3 sucks so bad". That was not my opinion. Just a general feel from top players/streamers. I dont play Coh3 and have NO opinion of it.
13 Mar 2025, 19:48 PM
13 Mar 2025, 19:48 PM
OKSpitfire: You can rage as often as you like btw, you usually manage to make it pretty funny.
12 Mar 2025, 11:18 AM
12 Mar 2025, 11:18 AM
Rosbone: So it was a systemic failure across multiple disciplines and check points.
12 Mar 2025, 04:30 AM
12 Mar 2025, 04:30 AM
Rosbone: Knowing how companies work, I imagine a new hire making the menus. The API they are using is complicated and things were hard to figure out. But at some point QA or management should have addressed these things. Usually within 6 months of starting.
12 Mar 2025, 04:29 AM
12 Mar 2025, 04:29 AM
Rosbone: @theekvn I dont hate Coh3 or Relic. I just dont understand how you work on Coh3 for like 7 years and the menu system is worse than if a Programming 101 student made it. Feel free to explain it to me.
12 Mar 2025, 04:07 AM
12 Mar 2025, 04:07 AM
theekvn: KT just need fuel debuf from 15% to 50%, Ele arc of fire- aim time improve and they are good to go
12 Mar 2025, 03:59 AM
12 Mar 2025, 03:59 AM
theekvn: and please Rosbone,I know you hate Coh3 to the bone due to your drama with relic, Still, Can you give a proper point of view instead of raging ?.
12 Mar 2025, 03:54 AM
12 Mar 2025, 03:54 AM
KoRneY: @aerafield It's possible that it is underpriced for what it is capable of now, no need to go full retard and take it immediately as a massive problem. It costs 60 more MP than a pz.3 and in 2v2 the barrage can be quite strong.
07 Mar 2025, 19:14 PM
07 Mar 2025, 19:14 PM
OKSpitfire: I do like that they made the Stuka more expensive instead of nerfing it into the ground though. Found it pretty unsatisfying to use before that buff a while back....
06 Mar 2025, 16:35 PM
06 Mar 2025, 16:35 PM
aerafield: USF already is by far the shittiest faction in terms of countering blobbing and turtling, now they supposedly have one overtuned tool locked behind a BG and it's immediately a massive problem?
06 Mar 2025, 13:33 PM
06 Mar 2025, 13:33 PM
Lady Xenarra: I think post-2.0 Whizbang buffs, the price is too low esp since the Stuka got nerfed in cost too. Speaking of which, how exactly is one supposed to successfully dive this Sherman in disguise? Med tank spam running into SSFs?
06 Mar 2025, 12:13 PM
06 Mar 2025, 12:13 PM
OKSpitfire: A powerful, doctrinal unit that outperforms stock stuff? Colour me shocked! 
06 Mar 2025, 10:49 AM
06 Mar 2025, 10:49 AM
Lady Xenarra: WTB Whizzbang for DAK instead of Stuka, 5 fuel cheape, 60MP more expensive and next to impossible to dive. 
05 Mar 2025, 20:27 PM
05 Mar 2025, 20:27 PM
Rosbone: It is also hard to expect Relic to help Coh2 when they cant even make working menus in Coh3 yet, 2 years after release and at full price+ for DLCs. Thats like asking a fish to do calculus.
04 Mar 2025, 02:58 AM
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Rosbone: But this last patch has made good progress for grabbing players. All we can hope is Coh3 gets to Coh2s quality level before everyone abandons the franchise. Its Relic so they will completely f*%k it up as usual. But its a hope/cope.
04 Mar 2025, 02:55 AM
04 Mar 2025, 02:55 AM
Rosbone: Relic wants Coh2 to fail so players will migrate to Coh3. It is hard to blame them since Coh3 sucks so bad. It needs all the help it can get.
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