Jaeger command squad should be buffed!
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I think replace the Jaeger's grenadiers G43 by panzer grenadiers G43 is a good way to buff it.
Do you guys think so?
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However, the reason why the Jaeger Command Squad squad seems so weak is their extremely late timing (3 CP), so you're not able to fit them in your core Grenadier build and they fight against vetted or elite infantry when they arrive on the field. It should definitely be lowered to 2 or even 1 CP.
Another problem with the JCS is that their flare range never increases with veterancy like for example Panzerfusiliers, so that use of them is a bit limited, which is a shame.
They also don't get the accuracy bonus when cloaked, unlike their camoed G43 Grenadier counterpart.
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It should definitely be lowered to 2 or even 1 CP.
Then the same thing needs to be done with the paratroopers and rangers )
And the pathfinders are much weaker than the jaeger. Take a look at the target size and DPS.
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Then the same thing needs to be done with the paratroopers and rangers )
And the pathfinders are much weaker than the jaeger. Take a look at the target size and DPS.
Paratroopers and Rangers are elite infantry, the Jaeger Command Squad is a beefed up mainline infantry unit. My point being that the command squad is not strong enough to justify 3 CP.
Not sure where the comparison with Pathfinders came from, considering both squads serve a different role, with Pathfinders having a damage crit, making them good supporting units. Pathfinders actually win at long range against the command squad because of said crit.
On second consideration, 1 CP would be too low for the command squad, considering the G43 upgrade comes at 2 CP. So 2 CP would fit them perfectly.
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I'm pretty sure that the JCS is the best all rounder for Wehrmacht, being effective at all ranges in combat.
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I'm pretty sure that the JCS is the best all rounder for Wehrmacht, being effective at all ranges in combat.
The best all rounders are actually G43 Panzergrenadiers, if you want to butcher your short and midrange for that small amount of long range dps.
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The best all rounders are actually G43 Panzergrenadiers, if you want to butcher your short and midrange for that small amount of long range dps.
For cost.
Less MP, no mu cost. Definitely a solid squad.
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The squad's equipment is great and they come in an excellent doctrine.
However, the reason why the Jaeger Command Squad squad seems so weak is their extremely late timing (3 CP), so you're not able to fit them in your core Grenadier build and they fight against vetted or elite infantry when they arrive on the field. It should definitely be lowered to 2 or even 1 CP.
Another problem with the JCS is that their flare range never increases with veterancy like for example Panzerfusiliers, so that use of them is a bit limited, which is a shame.
They also don't get the accuracy bonus when cloaked, unlike their camoed G43 Grenadier counterpart.
IDK a 2 or 1 cp 5 man squad with 3 G43s would just be seal clubbing. When I use it I like to go MG42, 2 grens, sniper and then get the command squad. That way I don't end up with way too many grens and I keep a balanced army comp without shooting myself in the foot in the early game.
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Paratroopers and Rangers are elite infantry, the Jaeger Command Squad is a beefed up mainline infantry unit. My point being that the command squad is not strong enough to justify 3 CP.
Not sure where the comparison with Pathfinders came from, considering both squads serve a different role, with Pathfinders having a damage crit, making them good supporting units. Pathfinders actually win at long range against the command squad because of said crit.
On second consideration, 1 CP would be too low for the command squad, considering the G43 upgrade comes at 2 CP. So 2 CP would fit them perfectly.
NO. If we want Jeager to 1-2CP. WE ALSO NEED PARATROOPERS to 1-2CP. U want buff for JEager. Otherwise, the riflemams will lose any fight
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NO. If we want Jeager to 1-2CP. WE ALSO NEED PARATROOPERS to 1-2CP. U want buff for JEager. Otherwise, the riflemams will lose any fight
The Jaeger Command Squad is just a G43 Grenadier squad with an extra G43 model. Every other combat stat is the same as Grenadiers. They would get slaughtered every time by actual elite infantry like upgraded Paratroopers, which is exactly the problem of why they arrive too late.
If 2 CP timing would mean a cost increase, I'm all in for that.
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The Jaeger Command Squad is just a G43 Grenadier squad with an extra G43 model. Every other combat stat is the same as Grenadiers. They would get slaughtered every time by actual elite infantry like upgraded Paratroopers, which is exactly the problem of why they arrive too late.
If 2 CP timing would mean a cost increase, I'm all in for that.
No, they are too strong for 2 cp. Look at their high DPS and low target size. This is an elite infantry.
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If it is a command squad its should have some unique abilities be limited to 1 and come at the same time as other command squads like:
Artillery officer, NKV officer or strum officer.
If it is an elite infatry it should not be limited to 1.
So simply redesign the unit.
On suggestion for a command ability would be to have an aura that provides additional bonuses to cloaked units (like increasing the duration of the ability or allowing the units to get the bonus even when not cloaked) or provide cloak to units with no camo upgrade like pioneer and paks.
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No, they are too strong for 2 cp. Look at their high DPS and low target size. This is an elite infantry.
Did you ever happen to hear about Shocktroopers? Or Guards?
Their target size is 0.91 (0.7 with vet) and they don't even get Panzergrenadier G43s but just the worse Grenadier G43s. The only difference with Grenadiers is one extra model and one extra G43 (and some abilities obviously). Sure, we could call that elite, but that is not Paratroopers/Rangers elite.
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