Soviet September patch discussion

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2019, 09:47 AMSander93

They will be great at annoying and cutting off enemy territory with the new improved capture and decapture speed bonus. There's absolutely no need to give them an ability to disable points, that's just overkill for a 210mp unit that can infiltration spawn.

Jump back to quoted post22 Aug 2019, 16:13 PMRoastinGhost

Maybe this is the time to restore female partisans?
As far as I know, they were removed due to issues re-crewing team weapons. Maybe, since they lack military training, they shouldn't be able to crew them? This would be a pretty big (but unique!) downside, but that makes room for other fitting bonuses. On-field reinforcement from buildings or hideouts comes to mind.

Soviets

Mobilize Reserves
Seven man conscripts were proving too potent with only the Molotov and AT grenade requirements, especially in conjunction with the price reduction in Soviet Tier 2 tech, and the traditional Soviet T70 power spike at very similar timing. The following change will represent a more meaningful choice for Soviet players.
- Mobilize reserves now costs 25 fuel and 100 Manpower to unlock
- It still requires Molotov and AT Grenade tech, in addition to Soviet T3 being built.

Combat Engineers
- Mosin Nagant rifle now matches those used by Conscripts
- Damage from 16 to 12
- Accuracy from 0.518/0.449/0.334 to 0.757/0.660/0.557

Airborne Guards
- DP-28 drop rate from 0.33 to 0.1

IS-2
- Far AOE damage from 0.135 to 0.2
- Mid AOE distance from 1 to 1.35
- Fragmentation round damage mid from 0.35 to 0.5
- Fragmentation round far damage from 0.135 to 0.2

Partisans
- Concussive Trap plant time from 15 to 10
- Concussive Trap cost from 15 to 10

Jump back to quoted post22 Aug 2019, 19:20 PMKatitof

Took you long enough Sander, but finally my original T3+fuel unlock idea is here

Also, CE change

Jump back to quoted post22 Aug 2019, 19:22 PMSturmpanther

why sander?

Jump back to quoted post22 Aug 2019, 20:40 PMAcidfreak

So we have to spend 45 fuel in total to unlock mobile reserve then spend 50 munitions on individual squads. Then spend 17 mp to add one more man. And have slow molotov. Only good thing is con snare which we can get anyways. So perhaps this needa to be looked upon? People are definitely better going for penals and then making a maxim with 10 fuel building and AT guns.

Jump back to quoted post22 Aug 2019, 20:48 PMHon3ynuts

Does this combat engineer change imply they use the like Conscript_nagant_rifle ? That's a dps buff at most ranges then correct?

Not that engineers were any good in combat since they were nerfed to have worse rifles than cons from having better ones.

Jump back to quoted post22 Aug 2019, 20:49 PMCrecer13

I look at these changes and think: 7th person is so poor upgrade. And to ramp additionally tolino: molotov - which is an absolutely useless unlock and I used it only in beta test and release times, plus MP and it’s good for a little earlier disgusting 7th person. Lord, enjoy this mediocrity yourself.

Jump back to quoted post22 Aug 2019, 20:53 PMthedarkarmadillo

The molotov was also pretty good at the release of the brits when they normalized all flame damage. Like good enough to warrant teching AND the long throw time. I'd even say that going strong cons and teching molotov instead of a tier first was viable and an absolute blast. Then the molotov got nerfed and has been a time or 2 since as well if I remember.

But at least volks are able to insta pop their long range flame nade in an instant to make sure they win any fight with an mg or dependant on cover am I right?..

Jump back to quoted post22 Aug 2019, 20:49 PMmiragefla

Yes, they use the exact same rifles as Conscripts.