Machine Guns

Jump back to quoted post6 Jul 2019, 14:55 PMMr Carmine

The supression it had before made it op.

Maybe give its old setup and packup time back. Give sprint back, because it current ability doesnt do it either.

It might no supress then but its mobile and can support cons or ce,s as damage booster and it can keep up.

Jump back to quoted post6 Jul 2019, 15:07 PMthedarkarmadillo

The thing is, it suppresses well enough if massed. Part of it too is that cons are not worth supporting/being support. Would you rather a con squad who can't scale until you fully tech and will lose helplessly against the enemy units costing the same or another MG that can support your existing MG for only 40mp more? They deal enough damage that a pair of then has far more to offer than a maxim and a con squad ever could.
Bump the maxim up to 300mp and make it do its job a little bit and drop cons to 220 and you might see the occasional con support squad but nobody wants cons as support RN because cons are not support.

Jump back to quoted post6 Jul 2019, 16:23 PMBalanced_Gamer

Nobody clearly wants to trade survivability for performance instead!

Jump back to quoted post6 Jul 2019, 16:41 PMKatitof

Because your way of doing that is stupid.

Jump back to quoted post6 Jul 2019, 16:47 PMBalanced_Gamer

Your way of thinking is clearly inflexible.

Jump back to quoted post6 Jul 2019, 15:07 PMthedarkarmadillo

The thing is, it suppresses well enough if massed. Part of it too is that cons are not worth supporting/being support. Would you rather a con squad who can't scale until you fully tech and will lose helplessly against the enemy units costing the same or another MG that can support your existing MG for only 40mp more? They deal enough damage that a pair of then has far more to offer than a maxim and a con squad ever could.
Bump the maxim up to 300mp and make it do its job a little bit and drop cons to 220 and you might see the occasional con support squad but nobody wants cons as support RN because cons are not support.

Jump back to quoted post6 Jul 2019, 16:23 PMBalanced_Gamer

Nobody clearly wants to trade survivability for performance instead!

Jump back to quoted post7 Jul 2019, 11:04 AMT.R. Stormjäger

What if the Maxim was just straight up replaced by the Dshka in T2 and replaced the Dshka in doctrines? The Dshka does way better with the deathloop thing and with a small price increase to 320mp it would do really well in T2.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jul 2019, 05:04 AMmrgame2

Imo suppression is not everything for mg.
Maxim have superb pack up times vs axis mg.
When i play usf, everytime i spot mg42 packing up, i know it is doom. It is so slow, i will just rush in left right with 2 squads to either force retreat or decrew it.

Increasing maxim suppression will make it very very hard to counter. Wehr grens need to stay still to shoot. They are very hard to flank mg. Pack up move further back reposition and Grens are fuckeed.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jul 2019, 05:04 AMmrgame2

Wehr grens need to stay still to shoot. They are very hard to flank mg. Pack up move further back reposition and Grens are fuckeed.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jul 2019, 13:41 PMmrgame2

Pio and Pg cqc dont really negate the speed of maxim or warrant maxim suppression buff.

Rifle nades imo are worst grenades because of 2 things, long animation time and lack of high damage. I think its 80 DMG modifier is 0.75 while usf and brit nades are 1. Even if rifle nades is longr range, it does not scare maxim as much as hand nades scare mg42.

Beside rifle nades does not even outrange maxim range. So you still got to flank and wait for extra animation. The fast 6man pack up makes it easier to dodge and survive and fire back. As opposed to flanking allies who inflict moving damages and/or start to nade you while hmg42 pack up like a picnic.

Correct me if im wrong, but the death loop is biggest concern if you are retreating?