And now here is a video I just recorded of two Ostwinds doing almost nothing to a T-34, while moving, across half the map. Hope you can handle this.
Off topic, how does one get that testmap?
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And now here is a video I just recorded of two Ostwinds doing almost nothing to a T-34, while moving, across half the map. Hope you can handle this.
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My point was is that Ostwind is anti-everything.
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Is it anti heavy tank? Then it isnt anti-everything.
Are you saying that its anti medium tank? How does the ost's performance against the weakest and cheapest medium in the game, means it beats every other medium too?
And arnt they the same price? Why shouldnt they be about equivalent?
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Off topic, how does one get that testmap?
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Because all (allied) mediums have pretty much same armor (150-160) and same amount of HP, it could've been cromwell or sherman
And again my point is - Ostwind performance is outlandish for it's cost and timing, especially against Soviets that do no have zooks or piats to try and ambush it, what happened to T-34 is just side effect JLI style overbuff to Ostwinds ROF. What was the point of nerfing Brummbar only to introduce current Ostwind later on?
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If the TD stops the Ostwind from maurading it isn't dead weight.... What's more is it will still damage mediums and still has a barrage. The su76 is likley the LEAST dead weight TD in the game due to that barrage...
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It's useless on half of the maps due to mere fact it's turretless. Try winning a direct engagement with 400hp/70 armor
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It's useless on half of the maps due to mere fact it's turretless. Try winning a direct engagement with 400hp/70 armor
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it's amazing how this community is hell bent on ruining this game
for those talking about the centaur can you imagine if it had the speed of an ostwind?
the reason the ostwind wasn't popular wasn't because it was ineffective, it was solely because the panzer was extremely effective against infantry but also a very good medium tank.. the balance team of the past understood this and that is why it wasn't "fixed", but unfortunately this "balance" team completely confused unfavoured with underpowered, ridiculous
so now you have a panzer that still retains it AI and the buffed ostwind that can now support the AT capabilities of the panzer
if the ostwind is going to be a so exceptional at AI plus have the benefit of doing significant damage against tanks then fine but that has to mean the panzer will need to have a significant AI nerf
in reality the ACTUAL balance fix here would of been to nerf the AI of the panzer and slightly buff the ozwinds moving accuracy therefore giving an actual roll to the ostwind.. in truth the ostwind was always effective if people bothered to actually learn how to use it but why bother with it when you can get one of the best medium tanks instead which was still effective against infantry
balance my ass
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it's amazing how this community is hell bent on ruining this game
for those talking about the centaur can you imagine if it had the speed of an ostwind?
the reason the ostwind wasn't popular wasn't because it was ineffective, it was solely because the panzer was extremely effective against infantry but also a very good medium tank.. the balance team of the past understood this and that is why it wasn't "fixed", but unfortunately this "balance" team completely confused unfavoured with underpowered, ridiculous
so now you have a panzer that still retains it AI and the buffed ostwind that can now support the AT capabilities of the panzer
if the ostwind is going to be a so exceptional at AI plus have the benefit of doing significant damage against tanks then fine but that has to mean the panzer will need to have a significant AI nerf
in reality the ACTUAL balance fix here would of been to nerf the AI of the panzer and slightly buff the ozwinds moving accuracy therefore giving an actual roll to the ostwind..
in truth the ostwind was always effective if people bothered to actually learn how to use it but why bother with it when you can get one of the best medium tanks instead which was still effective against infantry
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it's amazing how this community is hell bent on ruining this game
for those talking about the centaur can you imagine if it had the speed of an ostwind?
the reason the ostwind wasn't popular wasn't because it was ineffective, it was solely because the panzer was extremely effective against infantry but also a very good medium tank.. the balance team of the past understood this and that is why it wasn't "fixed", but unfortunately this "balance" team completely confused unfavoured with underpowered, ridiculous
so now you have a panzer that still retains it AI and the buffed ostwind that can now support the AT capabilities of the panzer
if the ostwind is going to be a so exceptional at AI plus have the benefit of doing significant damage against tanks then fine but that has to mean the panzer will need to have a significant AI nerf
in reality the ACTUAL balance fix here would of been to nerf the AI of the panzer and slightly buff the ozwinds moving accuracy therefore giving an actual roll to the ostwind.. in truth the ostwind was always effective if people bothered to actually learn how to use it but why bother with it when you can get one of the best medium tanks instead which was still effective against infantry
balance my ass
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The Panzer 4’s main gun is worse vs infantry compared to al allied mediums because it only damages some of the enemy squad models (Damage all in hold: False, coh2.db), but the Pintle MG makes up for this.
On the topic of the Ostwind, imagine this. FOR ONLY 20 MORE FUEL, USF GET THE SERMAN, WHICH CAN 1V1 PANZER 4s AND HAS THE SAME AI CAPABILITY AS THE OSTWIND. WOW
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Also, T34/76 ONE hull-mg makes less then half the damage as all 3x mgs of Panzer4 together. Nobody cares that T34 AI stats are OP.
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Fixed to avoid purposeful stupidity.
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