Hardly. That's the point of that sort of medium tank. The only basic medium that's not great at anti-infantry is the Cromwell.
The other four are great.
You missed his point like IS-2 missed infantry squad.
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Hardly. That's the point of that sort of medium tank. The only basic medium that's not great at anti-infantry is the Cromwell.
The other four are great.
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In the end of the day if the MP-40 is such a great upgrade why are you against replacing the MP-44s?
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Because Volks can effectively use their MP40s in urban maps where they can avoid getting shot while closing in? In CQC combat when you'd choose to use them over the STG44s? That's a big difference from it being the stock upgrade and Volks getting shafted on the majority of maps that have mostly ranged combat.
Your other arguments are quite frankly laughable. It's really clear you've either never really used the commander or you just suck with it. It's fantastic for urban map (high level) team games if you even remotely know how to make it work.
"Unless you spam [flamer Sturmpioneers] the impact is really low" yeah you don't say. Maybe try making two and you'll start dominating infantry engagements with them.
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Otherwise everyone would have used MP40 for Volks, which in this case was very rare. I think it provided smoke but replaced firenade with a normal nade which was a downside. The MP40 overall restricted you from maintaining aggression and engaging longer ranges. So there were more cons than pros and that is why it was hardly used.
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Because Volks can effectively use their MP40s in urban maps where they can avoid getting shot while closing in? In CQC combat when you'd choose to use them over the STG44s? That's a big difference from it being the stock upgrade and Volks getting shafted on the majority of maps that have mostly ranged combat.
Your other arguments are quite frankly laughable. It's really clear you've either never really used the commander or you just suck with it. It's fantastic for urban map (high level) team games if you even remotely know how to make it work.
"Unless you spam [flamer Sturmpioneers] the impact is really low" yeah you don't say. Maybe try making two and you'll start dominating infantry engagements with them.
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No need to be so personal here Mr top 20s rank. We get that you're a hot shot now since you're part of the community team but no need to be an elitist ass and let all of this go to your head thinking that you're a cut above the rest.
Be a bit more humble and don't forget that while I don't agree with Vipper on some things you gotta admit that he provided you guys with a lot of valuable and in-detail feedback, especially about the balance, something which most of us couldn't, and didn't do.
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It's hardly used because it's in the Feuersturm doctrine, and OKW's metagame is almost exclusively Special Operations with a smattering of Overwatch and Elite Armour.
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It is not only that.
MP-40 volks have a good chance to lose to most SMG allied infantry.
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No need to be so personal here Mr top 20s rank. We get that you're a hot shot now since you're part of the community team but no need to be an elitist ass and let all of this go to your head thinking that you're a cut above the rest.
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It is not only that.
MP-40 volks have a good chance to lose to most SMG allied infantry.
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So don't 1v1 them.
I'd expect a 280 MP 70 MP Cavalry Rifleman squad to have the edge over a 250 MP 45 FU Volks squad, just like I'd expect an Obersoldaten squad to have the edge over a single M1919 Rifleman squad.
Feuersturm is bad relative to on-meta commanders because two of its abilities are very situational, one is absolute trash, and the Flame Hetzer has poor synergy with the current OKW faction design.
The Assault Packages ability in isolation is pretty solid.
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The MP-40 is simply inferior to the grease gun and only slightly better than conscripts PPsh.
That is why it is getting a buff.
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Which'll make it better. It wasn't bad before, just highly situational and stuck in a off-meta doctrine.
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It is bad in live, compare to the grease gun, will not even mention Thompson.
DPS
range 10/15
Grease gun 13.4/4.2
MP-40 9.85/3.3
Grease gun is x136% better at range 0-10
and x125% better at range 15.
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PPSh Cons lose to PGrens. That doesn't make PPSh Cons bad.
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No matter how much twist you wan to use the stat are there
The grease gun is almost 40% better than the MP40.
(I you claim is probably inaccurate since pg will probably losses to equal MP Ppsh conscripts and MP-40 VG will probably loose to PPsh conscripts)
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MP40 upgrade would suit Sturmpios better since they should be the unit for closer range focused engagements.
Volks should maintain, long to mid range. Remain supportive. MP40 is a downgrade for them despite what changes came along on the patch. Mid to late game would become terrible for Volks.
It would suit better for Sturmpio to have it. Just saying since it seems more that type of unit!
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They already are.
Their STG profile is closer to SMG then PG STGs.
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