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You said you see the Pack Howitzer in almost every game.
If that were true, Captain would be the dominant tier.
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Where's the raketen changes? It seems to be universally agreed upon to be cheesy. It's annoying to use and play against, so how is this not a priority
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Remember when players were screaming that putting pak howitzers on the recon commander ability would result in nobody ever picking that doctrine and that relic hates usf for doing that?
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The Pack Howie is good, but it's not ubiquitous. In my experience people usually go for M20/Stuart/50 cal instead.
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Yes they do, but the majority of usf players play the recon commander and they all use the paratrooper/pack howitzer drop.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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(psst, they don't use it for the pack howi)
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I think Wider's direct AT fire toggle could very easily be balanced but from what we tested out it wasn't overperforming and you wouldn't want it to be your main AT, just supplement AT if needed.
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Yea I think that's leigit (get it) I like multipurpose units and it would really help med truck stand out.
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The vet bonuses of the Leig also need to be looked at. .
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How is leig useless? It counters team weapons and UKF emplacements fine. Much better than regular mortars
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Where's the raketen changes? It seems to be universally agreed upon to be cheesy. It's annoying to use and play against, so how is this not a priority
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You mean 3 levels of smoke range buffs isnt fair and balanced?
But seriously, what are its current buffs? Also its scatter bonus should be at vet 3 like other mortars instead of vet 5.
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Leig is 570mp and 40 fuel to get to. Pack is 590mp and 55 fuel to get to.
If you think this difference in cost justifies on unit being absolutely useless and the other being used in every single usf game with great performance, you need to revise things.
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its not exatcly true because most players bulid ambulance before full oficer tier
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Btw if by change you mentioned in increasing is firing arc, pen, dmg, set up time, sight and reduce its RA in exchange of creeping camo, we both agree.
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You want it to have more damage than all other AT guns even though it's cheaper and arrives earlier? And you don't even mention range, which is it's most distinct weakness? That's ridiculous
Give it a 5th man, no movement while camo'd, and it can't retreat until you deactivate it. Give it back the range bonus with vet (used to be vet 4, should be at vet 2 or 3) and then let's re-evaluate
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Because it doesn't?
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I bet you're one of those players parking it next to a med truck, ignoring barrage ability and wondering why it sucks.
Try watching some vonivan streams, he uses leig barrages and smoke vs MG's like a fine art. Good way to improve your unit and ability understanding
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Toggled camo's an unnecessary feature if the AT gun can't move in camo.
It should cloak automatically when stationary. The cloaked ZiS and M42 should work like that too.
Moving AT gun camo is both irritating for the opponent and an unnecessary micro burden on the AT gun's owner.
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