What are your feelings on playing a game based on a world war were 70-85 million people died?
Do you think it is wrong that you can play as Nazis? When you play as them do you respect them, enjoy them?
Do you think WW2 era Germany has been glamorised in COH2?
How do you feel about the wermacht's actions in real life, does that not put you off playing them?
The ethical considerations of playing COH2
13 Mar 2019, 13:24 PM
#1
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13 Mar 2019, 13:32 PM
#2
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I personally find wrong to play as USF that is the only nation that has dropped not 1 but 2 Atomic on civilian targets.
13 Mar 2019, 13:36 PM
#3
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I saw enough youtube videos to know that Hitler did nothing wrong.
13 Mar 2019, 13:39 PM
#4
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I personally find wrong to play as USF that is the only nation that has dropped not 1 but 2 Atomic on civilian targets.
i cant play UKF for that reason. So many have suffered or died under the british empire.
13 Mar 2019, 13:39 PM
#5
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Do you think it is wrong that you can play as Nazis?
Lmao it's not like you can play the SS in this game and slaughter some civilians. And I think you watched too many american WW2 movies if you think that Wehrmacht soldiers were nazis (or most of them), it's just retarded af
13 Mar 2019, 13:41 PM
#6
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People play this game because they want to have fun. There are no underlying motives or ethics.
Go somewhere else with your SJW bullshit please.
Go somewhere else with your SJW bullshit please.
13 Mar 2019, 13:46 PM
#7
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I personally find wrong to play as USF that is the only nation that has dropped not 1 but 2 Atomic on civilian targets.This explains everything
13 Mar 2019, 13:47 PM
#8
Posts: 16
Lmao it's not like you can play the SS in this game and slaughter some civilians. And I think you watched too many american WW2 movies if you think that Wehrmacht soldiers were nazis (or most of them), it's just retarded af
Of course they were all national socialists, they were passionate about Hitler and the expansion of the fatherland, it's what drove their great military successes and legendary resolve and morale.
The Wehrmacht although not as bad as the SS weren't innocent, they were brutal to Russian civilians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_of_the_Wehrmacht
13 Mar 2019, 13:50 PM
#9
Posts: 16
People play this game because they want to have fun. There are no underlying motives or ethics.
Go somewhere else with your SJW bullshit please.
Hey i'm not trying to kill the party, i love this game and i'm fascinated with WW2 like alot of people.
I was just wondering if people ever had any reservations about simulating what was quite a controversial war
13 Mar 2019, 13:51 PM
#10
Posts: 16
I personally find wrong to play as USF that is the only nation that has dropped not 1 but 2 Atomic on civilian targets.
i cant play UKF for that reason. So many have suffered or died under the british empire.
That is true. All sides were guilty of some kind of war crime.
13 Mar 2019, 13:57 PM
#11
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That is true. All sides were guilty of some kind of war crime.
just shows you that every nation does not act morally.
i mean the fact alone you decided to mention nazis and not soviets (so many more died due communism).
if we go for your high morally standards you cant play any history game at all(well you can play, but you are not allowed to have fun :^))
13 Mar 2019, 13:58 PM
#12
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This explains everything
Actually I was being sarcastic and for you information I currently play mostly USF.
13 Mar 2019, 14:01 PM
#13
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Killing German units is satisfying espiecialy when u know what they done to your country for me its dishonorable to play axis but its just me. There is a dispute in my home about that because my father http://www.companyofheroes.com/leaderboards#profile/steam/76561198150228534/standings
play only axis and i only alies. Anyway its really funny to see 55 years old man playing video games.
play only axis and i only alies. Anyway its really funny to see 55 years old man playing video games.
13 Mar 2019, 14:01 PM
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Of course they were all national socialists, they were passionate about Hitler and the expansion of the fatherland, it's what drove their great military successes and legendary resolve and morale.
The Wehrmacht although not as bad as the SS weren't innocent, they were brutal to Russian civilians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_of_the_Wehrmacht
American Soldiers also commited a lot war crimes during the Vietnam War, does that mean the whole U. S. Army was a bunch of murderers and hated Vietnamese people?
13 Mar 2019, 14:02 PM
#15
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i know u think why i use emoticon lol u must be good on tinder
Actually I was being sarcastic and for you information I currently play mostly USF.
13 Mar 2019, 14:05 PM
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American Soldiers also commited a lot war crimes during the Vietnam War, does that mean the whole U. S. Army was a bunch of murderers and hated Vietnamese people?
The UK and US knew about camps like Auschwitz and did nothing to liberate those being held there or to diminish the Nazis' resources of extermination. That means all Americans and British must be jew haters, right?
These arguments are stupid. War is hell, every side commits atrocities. There is no good and bad. Only losers and winners. And the winners write history.
13 Mar 2019, 14:06 PM
#17
Posts: 16
just shows you that every nation does not act morally.
i mean the fact alone you decided to mention nazis and not soviets (so many more died due communism).
if we go for your high morally standards you cant play any history game at all(well you can play, but you are not allowed to have fun :^))
Well obviously i mentioned Nazi's first because of the holocaust. Having said that the soviet union was bad to Jews as well, Stalin had Trotsky assassinated because he was of Jewish decent and a lot of minorities were tortured at the Gulags and many uprisings brutally put down over the years.
I tend to forget about British imperialist policies too, which at some time or another has persecuted many minorities. The atomic bomb was horrific and unnecessary as-well. The whole war was so surreal, full of depravity and barbarism. Hence the thread.
I guess all countries are scum. The best thing you can do is cultivate some sort of development individually and personally. Nationalism always ends in tears.
13 Mar 2019, 14:10 PM
#18
Posts: 16
Killing German units is satisfying espiecialy when u know what they done to your country for me its dishonorable to play axis but its just me. There is a dispute in my home about that because my father http://www.companyofheroes.com/leaderboards#profile/steam/76561198150228534/standings
play only axis and i only alies. Anyway its really funny to see 55 years old man playing video games.
Its true. I love killing Nazi's there is no greater thrill then knocking out German armour
13 Mar 2019, 14:20 PM
#19
Posts: 16
American Soldiers also commited a lot war crimes during the Vietnam War, does that mean the whole U. S. Army was a bunch of murderers and hated Vietnamese people?
I didn't say there were all murderers, i said they were national socialists. Their interpretation of its policies varied between person to person i'm sure and of course there were good Germans, having said that the Wermacht as an organization did let a lot of military bad practice go on. But like you said, so did a lot of armies in wartime especially against Nemesis countries, so I will stop singling them out.
The war was so long ago and their has been so much propaganda since, the modern generation have become quite detached from the realities of the war and so many WW2 films have glamorised it like inglorious basterds and Fury. Are you telling me you did not play Rifle company after watching the Easy 8 knock out the Tiger in Fury.
13 Mar 2019, 14:21 PM
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Well obviously i mentioned Nazi's first because of the holocaust. Having said that the soviet union was bad to Jews as well, Stalin had Trotsky assassinated because he was of Jewish decent and a lot of minorities were tortured at the Gulags and many uprisings brutally put down over the years.
I tend to forget about British imperialist policies too, which at some time or another has persecuted many minorities. The atomic bomb was horrific and unnecessary as-well. The whole war was so surreal, full of depravity and barbarism. Hence the thread.
I guess all countries are scum. The best thing you can do is cultivate some sort of development individually and personally. Nationalism always ends in tears.
Lol, killed because he is a Jew. Stalin killed Trotsky and killed a bunch of senior officials and the military - because he was paranoid and afraid of a coup, although there was no Trotsky conspiracy.
You also ignore the fact that the Holocaust is not the murder of Jews. This is the murder of all those races that were considered inferior: Belorussians, Russians, Ukrainians, Polyaks, Gypsies were also killed. The Encyclopaedia of Genocide estimates the number of victims of the Slavic genocide, the citizens of the USSR, at 15.5–19.5 million people. Rummel believes that about 3 million Ukrainians died, about 1.4 million Belarusians, about 1.6 million Russians (not counting Soviet prisoners of war). The historian Bohdan Wytwycky believes that more than a quarter of all victims of the Nazi occupation of the USSR (in particular, 3 million Ukrainians and 1.5 million Belarusians) were destroyed on racial grounds.
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