Riflemen are too expensive.

Jump back to quoted post11 Feb 2019, 10:46 AMKurobane

Rifleman Veterancy

Vet 1: Unlocks the 'Anti-Tank Rifle Grenade' ability
Vet 2: -23% received accuracy, -20% weapon cooldown
Vet 3: -15% received accuracy,+30% accuracy, -50% ability recharge time, +25% grenade range

Rather than a straight up buff to rifleman, I believe they (along with some other units such as Grenadiers) could use something I like to call "Veterancy Smoothing". Basically most units in the game do not receive a combat related bonus at Vet 1 and then get a huge bonus at Veterancy 2/3. I would like to see these bonuses/power spikes spread out across each veterancy level to make the unit performance more consistent and gradual as they vet up.

Example of New Rifleman Vet
Vet 1 : -12.6% received accuracy,+10% accuracy, Unlocks Rifle Grenade
Vet 2 : -12.6% received accuracy,+10% accuracy, -20% Weapon Cooldown
Vet 3 : -12.6% received accuracy,+10% accuracy, -50% ability recharge time, +25% grenade range

Jump back to quoted post10 Feb 2019, 17:26 PMIncendiaryRounds

Sick of threads that want an allied buff because of some OKW unit. Then what will it do to Ostheer?! Ost never gets powercreep. Riflemen are very good vs grens so the solution is to nerf volks. I suggested nerfing the stg close and midrange dps but slight buff to max range. Increase the speed of volks. Now OKW players must keep their volks at max range at all times which is a bit easier due to slightly faster speed and rifles will be punished a bit less for closing the distance. Also a slightly faster speed will allow volks to flank more effectively since the Leig is subpar.

Jump back to quoted post13 Feb 2019, 15:41 PMmons7erz

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The hardest combinations to face off against in OKW are Strums supported by Volks...Regardless of what anyone does say, Strums will always dominate the close range, as they should with their STGs...

Jump back to quoted post13 Feb 2019, 15:41 PMmons7erz

As for grens, i'd say their powercreep is BP1, LMG42s and Rifle nades tend to work wonders. But Its been a long time since i played OST so I can't fully comment

Jump back to quoted post13 Feb 2019, 15:49 PMdistrofio

Simply put, game is hard, nerf pls.
And regarless what you say, sturm are paper soldiers, expensive AF and no one with more than 1 neuron will kamikaze them for a single riflemen squad. You can do the math anytime. Now if your complaint is why (300+260)560 MP beats 280... I cant really tell why...
1v1 stationary riflemen destroy sturms.
1v1 rushing riflemen beats volks.
2 riflemen focusing a single rushing sturmpios, and then taking out the trash of the remaining volk squad, seems pretty reasonable. All your problems solved.

Jump back to quoted post13 Feb 2019, 16:31 PMblancat

1v1 stationary riflemen destroy sturms. -> strum win in mid-close range

1v1 rushing rifleman cant beat volk behind the cover

Jump back to quoted post13 Feb 2019, 15:49 PMdistrofio

Simply put, game is hard, nerf pls.
And regarless what you say, sturm are paper soldiers, expensive AF and no one with more than 1 neuron will kamikaze them for a single riflemen squad. You can do the math anytime. Now if your complaint is why (300+260)560 MP beats 280... I cant really tell why...
1v1 stationary riflemen destroy sturms.
1v1 rushing riflemen beats volks.
2 riflemen focusing a single rushing sturmpios, and then taking out the trash of the remaining volk squad, seems pretty reasonable. All your problems solved.

Jump back to quoted post13 Feb 2019, 16:34 PMMr Carmine

I think he is refering too the minute one pressure okw can bring. Usf cant field rifles as fast as okw can field volks. And the sturms rape a rear echelon squad.
And volks are 250mp not 260mp mr expert.

And dude if you cant write something without insulting someone just do everyone a favor and stop posting.

Jump back to quoted post13 Feb 2019, 16:29 PMTobis

It's not powercreep when they've been the same for literally 5 years.

Jump back to quoted post13 Feb 2019, 16:31 PMblancat

1v1 stationary riflemen destroy sturms. -> strum win in mid-close range

1v1 rushing rifleman cant beat volk behind the cover

almost situation rifleman hugging into volks behind the cover and lost MP efficiency

if rifleman hugging into volks safely, volk just throw flame nade and can beat easily again


also volks get better weapon earlier than rifleman and MP snowballing starts here

Jump back to quoted post13 Feb 2019, 17:50 PMthedarkarmadillo

This is the issue. You can't engage them at range effeciently but you also cant close because of stgs and labs nades. They are such a poorly designed unit.
Obers should come earlier to lessen the blow and promote diversity but volks need toned down slightly for the sake of all balamce

Jump back to quoted post13 Feb 2019, 16:34 PMMr Carmine

I think he is refering too the minute one pressure okw can bring. Usf cant field rifles as fast as okw can field volks. And the sturms rape a rear echelon squad.
And volks are 250mp not 260mp mr expert.

And dude if you cant write something without insulting someone just do everyone a favor and stop posting.