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u still think 222 is op?
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No, you are just bias about your view of the community devs.
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You're the one who started this conversation by saying an anti-tank gun wasn't meant to counter assault guns.
Like StuGs.
ATG are not the intended counter of Brumbar, the same way Pak are not the intended counter to KV-8s. It is the other way around both units counter ATG.
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PLS read again more carefully:
Now if in your opinion ATGs are the intended counter vs Brumbar and KV-8, pls make present you arguments or are replay demonstrating the "intended" use of ATG to counter these vehicles.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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He has made a true point.
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Clearly every one of the 10+ "community devs" that have cycled through hate allies. You should have seen the one poor guy that argued that axis shouldn't be nerfed into the ground. Everyone yelled at him to stop trying to have a different opinion than the community dev hivemind before he was removed from the team the very next day.
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No he hasn't, one tricks claim that the community devs have a "bias" against their faction every time it gets nerfed. Like the Brummbar has been OP for forever and arguably gotten 10x easier to use since they changed the Attack Ground 100% accuracy BS and gave it a larger AOE.
It could drive up bounce a fuck ton of shit thats suppose to counter it then oneshot squads. Only a completly bias moron would claim the Brummbar didn't need a nerf.
U trynna tell me all these faction one tricks are RIGHT
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Axis armor is designed for durability and that is why most axis vehicles get an armor bonus.
My point is simple, if allied TDs are OP as you say and can ignore even vetted armor bonuses ,then axis armor unit's vet bonuses should be redesigned to get something more useful for their role, the same Katyoushas vet 1 ability needs a redesign.
If it was my choice I would make Brumbar very durably, less lethal and better vs structures, but if Relic has decided that Brumbar should be all about the "Gun" that approach should be also reflected on the vet bonuses of the unit. That is the point I am trying to get across.
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Next thread?
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Not saying that Bruumbar is fine, but the one shot part is wrong IMHO.
The gun actually got a lethal radius of 1.11 m, relying on large (6 m ?) aoe to deal non lethal damage that quickly drops, at the edges it's not even a double digit number.
The gun is..."political", guaranteed hit but guaranteed non wipe.
The issue, IMHO, is the durability. It needs to be punished if caught with the pants down.
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No he hasn't, one tricks claim that the community devs have a "bias" against their faction every time it gets nerfed. Like the Brummbar has been OP for forever and arguably gotten 10x easier to use since they changed the Attack Ground 100% accuracy BS and gave it a larger AOE.
It could drive up bounce a fuck ton of shit thats suppose to counter it then oneshot squads. Only a completly bias moron would claim the Brummbar didn't need a nerf.
U trynna tell me all these faction one tricks are RIGHT
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well suprise surprise sniper are not the counter to infantry, they are the counter to team weapons
Following that logic, snipers are not intended counters of mainline infnatries, because mainline infantries will run them down and kill snipers, before they will be able to wipe any mainline infantry squad.
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The Brums vet IS useful tho, against everything that ISN'T a TD. The Katy vet is useful when you want to blow some mu and deal less damage.
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Brummbars, however, you're not getting for durability. You get them for reliable anti-infantry firepower. ...
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You know you're a pretty credible person when the best argument that a person with some sort of hate boner for you can come up with is a debatably correct statement (pretty sure that's also not even what I said in context) from half a year ago.
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Following that logic, snipers are not intended counters of mainline infnatries, because mainline infantries will run them down and kill snipers
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Permanently BannedHow about we simply stop blaming each others thought as biased and just focused on the fact that brumbär was nerfed and get over it and possibly just think possible changes for the unit in future?
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