Let the UC cost fuel
24 Mar 2018, 22:46 PM
#1
Posts: 518
In my opinion this Unit rolls just too fast onto the battlefield and is overperforming for its low price. Its cost should get changed to 240 MP and 15 Fuel because at the moment it is just to strong to only cost some MP (it is effective against buildings,Infantry can counter MGs without any skill and does not even delay Upgrading your HQ since it doesn't cost fuel)
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
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Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
I don't play this version of EZ mode very often because it's so boringly simple. But it is funny to see the Axis circle jerk with people complaining that the one faction with every crutch in the book is some how underpowered lol.
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
u deserve to lose if u don't have an Ele when there's an ISU.
Just stay out of topics u have no knowledge of, Latch.
Ranked, I only play USF. Wouldn't be caught dead playing Nazis with some sort of record being taken
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you, and wouldn't be surprised to be hit again, but I'm fed up with this bullshit and honestly, the sole fact that I'm not permad is what keeps me here having discussions about the game I like and yes, I do question myself why I still go back here to this free range insane asylum so often.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
24 Mar 2018, 23:19 PM
#2
Posts: 2066
15 fuel is pushing it. 5 is fine.
Kappa
24 Mar 2018, 23:29 PM
#3
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Posts: 2885
It does cost lots of munitions to get the upgrades that make it anything more than a scout vehicle, though.
24 Mar 2018, 23:30 PM
#4
Posts: 264
The UC...
Small arms fire can hurt it, a bit.
It can kite away from faust attempts.
OKW can build a raketten from the start to counter it, OST cannot.
OST can use armor piercing incendiary rounds to shred it to pieces, but this ability is locked behind vet.
Its front armor is 1 point stronger than a 222.
It handles like a brick
I also think the UC's upgrade cost is fair.
15 fuel is a bit much.
maybe lower its armor, lock the upgrades behind the first HQ upgrade and let the upgrades increase its armor
Small arms fire can hurt it, a bit.
It can kite away from faust attempts.
OKW can build a raketten from the start to counter it, OST cannot.
OST can use armor piercing incendiary rounds to shred it to pieces, but this ability is locked behind vet.
Its front armor is 1 point stronger than a 222.
It handles like a brick
I also think the UC's upgrade cost is fair.
15 fuel is a bit much.
maybe lower its armor, lock the upgrades behind the first HQ upgrade and let the upgrades increase its armor
24 Mar 2018, 23:46 PM
#5
Posts: 518
It does cost lots of munitions to get the upgrades that make it anything more than a scout vehicle, though.
You could say the same about the SdKfz 251 ... which costs 30 Fuel more
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
Playing with randoms
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
I don't play this version of EZ mode very often because it's so boringly simple. But it is funny to see the Axis circle jerk with people complaining that the one faction with every crutch in the book is some how underpowered lol.
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
u deserve to lose if u don't have an Ele when there's an ISU.
Just stay out of topics u have no knowledge of, Latch.
Ranked, I only play USF. Wouldn't be caught dead playing Nazis with some sort of record being taken
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you, and wouldn't be surprised to be hit again, but I'm fed up with this bullshit and honestly, the sole fact that I'm not permad is what keeps me here having discussions about the game I like and yes, I do question myself why I still go back here to this free range insane asylum so often.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
24 Mar 2018, 23:50 PM
#6
Posts: 450
Ukf do not have mortars or snares though. Uc is there to help vs suppression, kubels,snipers, and mortars. You cannot nerf this unit without a ukf early game redesign. Maybe add a substitution for thus unit if you want it to get nerfed.
24 Mar 2018, 23:57 PM
#7
Posts: 255
You could say the same about the SdKfz 251 ... which costs 30 Fuel more
Poor attempt.
251 is for reinforcing on the battlefield.
25 Mar 2018, 06:39 AM
#8
Posts: 414
I think the UC is completely in line.
25 Mar 2018, 12:14 PM
#9
Posts: 3260
I think it's of similar value to the Infantry Section and HMG it competes with.
25 Mar 2018, 14:09 PM
#10
Posts: 1063
Going UC means UK capping power is even shittier than before and now give it fuel cost, no thank you, I would prefer we have a 2-inch mortar upgrade for UC than maybe you can slap a fuel cost on it, otherwise that is a lot of investments on a unit that generally don't survive past 10 mins of the game.
25 Mar 2018, 17:37 PM
#11
Posts: 493
Let the kubalwagon™ cost fuel? No, what a dumb thought. If someone forgot, OKW is dead anyway. And wait... wait... let M3 cost NO FUEL AT ALL!!!11
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25 Mar 2018, 18:01 PM
#12
Posts: 1527
Permanently BannedI think 5 fuel is a good change. UKF have dirt cheap nade tech for fighting mgs. The nade range on those UKF nades are almost as long as rifle nades. As well, UKF tech is the cheapest of all factions. But this is far from the most important problem with UKF.
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26 Mar 2018, 01:09 AM
#13
Posts: 414
UC is fine. It's not abusively used. Totally a L2P issue. 2 sources of small arms will push it away and brits don't have repair until down the road.
26 Mar 2018, 04:35 AM
#14
Posts: 1527
Permanently BannedThe armor value of UC is too high. 222/251 have lower armor and they cost 30 fuel.
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26 Mar 2018, 04:57 AM
#15
Posts: 1930
The armor value of UC is too high. 222/251 have lower armor and they cost 30 fuel.
citing armor without HP is useless. the UC only have 200 hp compared to the 320 HP on the 222 and 251.
as well as the fact the 222 have a 20mm cannon, and the 251 being able to reinforce troops.
the basic bren carrier is hardly worth the MP cost. You don't have a turret and you're relatively slow and cumbersome, so you can't flank.
You can't reinforce squad and the occupants can't fight. Tommies are long range combatant so it doesn't make sense to try to dump them behind the enemy.
Of all the Allied light trucks, the UC is most likely the least threatening of them all.
26 Mar 2018, 05:25 AM
#16
Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8
The armor value of UC is too high. 222/251 have lower armor and they cost 30 fuel.
222 can engage infantry, light vehicles, planes, have 50 sight range and turret.
251 can reinforce and transport 2 squads at once.
You're comparing apples to airplanes.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
26 Mar 2018, 07:00 AM
#17
Posts: 1740
Don't forget that while OKW can get a Kübelwagen that doesn't bleed because it can easily be repaired by OKW's starting unit, the UC needs T2 in order to be repaired at all without the cost of mun.
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