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21 Dec 2017, 14:35 PM
#1
avatar of BIH_kirov_QC

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SO what the new meta ?!

im getting rocked with soviets and okw.

gotta learn the new game :)
21 Dec 2017, 14:58 PM
#2
avatar of Crecer13

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I do not know how for others, but for me this patch "Huge disappointment", in team games, the Soviets began to suck more and deeper:
- IS-2 is still terribly inaccurate against infantry
- The King Tiger wiped the infantry with one shot - continues wipe

And the Soviets became even worse against the Wehrmacht, especially shoock troopers, the new Grenadiers just don't let them in close range.
21 Dec 2017, 15:11 PM
#3
avatar of Muad'Dib

Posts: 368

And the Soviets became even worse against the Wehrmacht, especially shoock troopers, the new Grenadiers just don't let them in close range.


There have been no changes to the combat performance of either grenadiers or shock troops.
21 Dec 2017, 15:22 PM
#4
avatar of Crecer13

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There have been no changes to the combat performance of either grenadiers or shock troops.


Yeah, and G43 did not change.
21 Dec 2017, 15:29 PM
#5
avatar of Muad'Dib

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Yeah, and G43 did not change.


I must be missing something, because yeah, G43s did not change for grenadier squads.
21 Dec 2017, 15:33 PM
#6
avatar of Swift

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I must be missing something, because yeah, G43s did not change for grenadier squads.

Technically, they got nerfed, because they're at 2cps now, but otherwise, no change at all
21 Dec 2017, 15:35 PM
#7
avatar of Crecer13

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I must be missing something, because yeah, G43s did not change for grenadier squads.

Grenadiers with G43 annihilate all living things now, all playing for the Wehrmacht, I saw only one person who played for OKW.
21 Dec 2017, 15:42 PM
#8
avatar of Angrade (Ægion)
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In 3v3s I have been seeing alot of blobing Ostheer with Jaeger Infantry. Every time it fails miserably. Fighting blobs is quite easy.
21 Dec 2017, 15:55 PM
#9
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Grenadiers with G43 annihilate all living things now, all playing for the Wehrmacht, I saw only one person who played for OKW.
Which can also be a hint that OKW was overnerfed. Vet nerfs, vehicle nerfs, repair speed nerfs etc. etc.

Only had two games thus far (2x 2vs2 as Brits) and my opponents were all Ost. Not a single Panther was seen. People seem to be still hard pressed into Tier 3.

A bit early to predict meta but for Ostheer I'm pretty confident the meta is still Tier 3.
21 Dec 2017, 16:04 PM
#10
avatar of Nosliw

Posts: 515

Which can also be a hint that OKW was overnerfed. Vet nerfs, vehicle nerfs, repair speed nerfs etc. etc.

Only had two games thus far (2x 2vs2 as Brits) and my opponents were all Ost. Not a single Panther was seen. People seem to be still hard pressed into Tier 3.

A bit early to predict meta but for Ostheer I'm pretty confident the meta is still Tier 3.


I played a 2v2 yesterday on rails vs rank 9 brit. I was a team of 2 ostheer. Won game with osttruppen and 2 panthers. Next game another game as double Wm. Won with 4 panthers and 2 werfers combined between us. I wouldn't could T4 out so soon.
21 Dec 2017, 16:06 PM
#11
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21 Dec 2017, 16:11 PM
#12
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As alies player think that Wermacht rules in team games at the moment. OKW suck.
21 Dec 2017, 16:34 PM
#13
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As alies player think that Wermacht rules in team games at the moment. OKW suck.


Which reminds me, gotta check out the new Osttruppen.
21 Dec 2017, 17:12 PM
#14
avatar of Stug life

Posts: 4474


Grenadiers with G43 annihilate all living things now, all playing for the Wehrmacht, I saw only one person who played for OKW.
dude they did not touch g43 or greens and they even buffed shoock and cons , how biased can you be ?
21 Dec 2017, 17:24 PM
#15
avatar of Crecer13

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dude they did not touch g43 or greens and they even buffed shoock and cons , how biased can you be ?


Yes, I prefer the Soviets, but I would not say what is not. This patch brought a bunch of garbage, my Maxim did not shoot at the grenadiers who stood before him.
21 Dec 2017, 17:34 PM
#16
avatar of Shivara

Posts: 6

What do you guys think the new Allies meta for 2v2 is gonna be? Soviets + USF? UKF + USF? I would love to see what ppl think in an unbiased and unsalty way. Pls no "huehue Allies so OP now, plx nerf!!!11 My OKW blob is not working anymoar kappa"
21 Dec 2017, 17:49 PM
#17
avatar of BIH_kirov_QC

Posts: 367

guys please this is a thread about META. not buffs or nerfs on units or whatever.

so what the new opening for soviets?

what the globat strat for okw?

t1 then t3 with obers?
21 Dec 2017, 17:51 PM
#18
avatar of ZombiFrancis

Posts: 2742

If the metagame results in a singularly superior strategies then there is still no dynamic metagame and the game is no more or less balanced than before.
21 Dec 2017, 18:02 PM
#19
avatar of Crecer13

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dude they did not touch g43 or greens and they even buffed shoock and cons , how biased can you be ?

Polished shock troops? Now they can not throw a smoke grenade, then a frag (throwing a smoke grenade, the frag is recharged). For them, this is a total nerf. Because they are very dependent on micro, without simultaneous smoke and grenades is a dead unit.
21 Dec 2017, 18:38 PM
#20
avatar of Stug life

Posts: 4474


Polished shock troops? Now they can not throw a smoke grenade, then a frag (throwing a smoke grenade, the frag is recharged). For them, this is a total nerf. Because they are very dependent on micro, without simultaneous smoke and grenades is a dead unit.
and the buff they fixed the granade and cost reduction
Reinforcement time from 6.5 to 5.5
Reinforcement cost from 33 to 31
Trip-Wire Flares removed
Veterancy 1 now reduces Smoke Grenade cost from 15 to 10
Veterancy 2 -40% Smoke cooldown moved to veterancy 1
Grenade Far AOE from 0.15 to 0.5
Grenades now share a cooldown
Grenade damage type from small explosive to big explosive; can now damage ambient buildings
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