Fall Balance Preview

Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2017, 21:10 PMSturmpanther

Well i find the calliope even worse^^

Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2017, 20:12 PMskyshark

i'm not. this is possible for artillery weapons (time fuse) due to the long time of flight to target (relatively). from a tank it is not done.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2017, 21:09 PMTheSleep3r

Of course you can't. Smith and miragefla were smart to break the mod into smaller pieces, which were then cut into the Fall Balance mod. Everything would be heading in the right direction, except the amount of changes that slipped in the Fall Balance is unjustifiably small. The scope doesn't include pieces of balance that do not interfere with each other; why is the scope 'teamgames' and not 'teamgames and conscripts for example which are in dire need of help and would arguably help balance the teamgames even more which are the damn scope by the way', I don't know. There are a lot more things that could be packed into the patch and not doing harm, but: the scope.

Unavailability of resources is not an excuse for scrapping a lot of good (not all of them of course) changes made by the community team, which made a complete package ready to be delivered (let's skip the validity of changes for dopehaircut's sake).

Note that I did not claim CoH2 is a failure; the patch and scope system is a failure because of execution. The game has potential which could be greatly utilized if the interval between patches decreases. CoH2 is also not doomed; see that what I wrote is doomed to be spoiled. And when it spoils, will the population drop? Not likely as the game is unique at this moment. And while it's good it can be made better so

kyle pls come on don't do this to me let them add more thx

Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2017, 21:32 PMLemonJuice

the downside of smaller scale patches is that you have to plan ahead for how the future changes are gonna affect the small changes youre making now, because the game isnt a vacuum and everything is supposed to work together to balance everything. for example a faction can have weak infantry if they can make up for it another area, and this leads to asymetrical balance and imo more interesting dynamics. but if you just have a small patch that focuses around infantry balance, then the tendency is for infantry to become homogenized so that they are balanced when fighting each other without taking into account other factors because they are 'out of scope' or because they may not be as obvious. and as you say, smaller patches are ok if theres a higher frequency, but the reality seems to be that relic doesnt want to have frequent patches.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2017, 22:37 PMMistah_S

> Nefred the late game crutches of both OST and OKW.
> Buffed the already OP TD of USF.
> Very little focus on what community is calling out (see cancer placements, penals/conscripts, etc, etc)

Guess time to shelve this game for good.
GG no re Relic.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2017, 19:26 PMvoltardark

Just add this check box :

x Use the fall balance mod when looking for an automatch.


When the box is checked, the matchmaker will try to find a fall balance modded match.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2017, 19:26 PMvoltardark

Just add this check box :

x Use the fall balance mod when looking for an automatch.


When the box is checked, the matchmaker will try to find a fall balance modded match.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2017, 16:59 PMCzepis

Well...I, for one, am glad, Relic has the final word and not the community *cough* *cough*.

Jump back to quoted post19 Jul 2017, 08:46 AMStrummingbird

Kubel might be a bit too weak now- it offers pretty much nothing combat-wise, doesn't quite cap fast enough to be worth as a pure capping unit, and with lower armor it gives away a lot of vet.

I don't see why you wouldn't get another volk squad instead; with kubels you weaken your midgame significantly by losing out a vetted squad and now it isn't even good earlygame to compensate. If anything it ties your sturmpios down repairing more than the enemy.

Consider increasing base sight range (maybe to 50 or so) / further increasing (de)cap speed to further strengthen its niche.

Jump back to quoted post19 Jul 2017, 09:25 AMSturmpanther

You saw that Kübel survive now a mine

And 1 Kübel is still ok. You make caporder with it and cap your whole side very fast. So you can focus on other units.

Or you still use it in attack. On open ground it still working. Just not vs green cover anymore!

Jump back to quoted post19 Jul 2017, 09:25 AMSturmpanther

You saw that Kübel survive now a mine

And 1 Kübel is still ok. You make caporder with it and cap your whole side very fast. So you can focus on other units.

Or you still use it in attack. On open ground it still working. Just not vs green cover anymore!

Jump back to quoted post19 Jul 2017, 09:29 AMblvckdream

I dont understand why Bulldozer was buffed? Makes no sense. According to this patch preview it is because you need Major for it or pay a higher price but this applies to every call in tank now. So what´s the point?