Faction Rankings

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2017, 21:45 PMTiger Baron

Yeah just because the Brits have 1 or 2 unbalanced tanks and 1 unbalanced emplacement it means they're OP and broken.

Oh and let's not forget Commandos, the overpriced "Elite" infantry which is only viable if you have the Mobile Assault doctrine or the Vanguard doctrine because the ones from the default Commandos Regiment are stupidly overperforming for a whooping 540 man power that come in a big ass glider which cannot be repaired or can reinforce or produce in commandos even in friendly territory, so OP!

Give me a break.

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2017, 22:06 PMButcher

Things that Brits excell at:
- Infantry: Double Brens
- Tanks: Cromwell, Comet
- And of course emplacements

You say that "one or two units are overperforming" and thus the faction wasn´t overperforming. That is wrong. In theory it only takes one possible overperforming unit and if you abuse it your faction as a whole can be overperforming since you rely on that thing.

Imagine the good old days three years ago with terminator Panzergrenadiers: Nobody would have gotten the idea to say that Wehrmacht wasn´t overperforming since Grens were okay. Nobody relied on Grens. There is some logical fallacy in your argument.

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2017, 22:06 PMButcher

Things that Brits excell at:
- Infantry: Double Brens
- Tanks: Cromwell, Comet
- And of course emplacements

You say that "one or two units are overperforming" and thus the faction wasn´t overperforming. That is wrong. In theory it only takes one possible overperforming unit and if you abuse it your faction as a whole can be overperforming since you rely on that thing.

Imagine the good old days three years ago with terminator Panzergrenadiers: Nobody would have gotten the idea to say that Wehrmacht wasn´t overperforming since Grens were okay. Nobody relied on Grens. There is some logical fallacy in your argument.

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2017, 23:20 PMTiger Baron

No, I said 2 tanks, and the mortar pit.

The IS are one of the worst Allied infantry because the bonus in cover they get is actually a con for them out of cover, not to mention their cost, why do you think blobbing doesn't work with them or why Osttruppen are so effective against them then?

Yes yes, the Comet and Cromwell. Those 2 tanks were the ones I meant.

Emplacements, the only emplacement I've noticed that the Axis are still crying about is the mortar pit.

But if you nerf it it becomes useless so using my idea of replacing it and keeping it unique at the same time is the best way to go Imo.

Haven't heard many people complain about the Bofors after the nerf to it and you pretty much almost never see a 17 pounder on the field.

All in all the Brits only have their Tanks and Vanguard\Infiltration Commandos going for them atm.

Jump back to quoted post17 Mar 2017, 05:50 AMNano

While I do find this topic highly entertaining, I do find myself wonder where if anywhere there is stats of victories per faction and stats on commanders or other good global stats?

Is there such a thing somewhere on this never ending system of tubes and dumptrucks we call the interwebs?

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2017, 23:35 PMXutryn_X7

In late game,light cover is everywhere.Vet 3 pzgrens,grens lose vs vet 3 5 man double bren always.They are harder to kill than RM,especially in cover cause they are ghosts(very low received accuracy)

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2017, 23:20 PMTiger Baron

No, I said 2 tanks, and the mortar pit.

The IS are one of the worst Allied infantry because the bonus in cover they get is actually a con for them out of cover, not to mention their cost, why do you think blobbing doesn't work with them or why Osttruppen are so effective against them then?

Yes yes, the Comet and Cromwell. Those 2 tanks were the ones I meant.

Emplacements, the only emplacement I've noticed that the Axis are still crying about is the mortar pit.

But if you nerf it it becomes useless so using my idea of replacing it and keeping it unique at the same time is the best way to go Imo.

Haven't heard many people complain about the Bofors after the nerf to it and you pretty much almost never see a 17 pounder on the field.

All in all the Brits only have their Tanks and Vanguard\Infiltration Commandos going for them atm.

• UKF Advanced Emplacements, Fast Teching, Cheap Powerful Tanks, Best Offmap, UC Clowning
  
• USF Bazooka and AT-Nade combo. Cheap AT Gun, Call-Ins, Broken Arty, Jeep Clowning
  
• SOVIETS6 Man crews, Su76 Blobbing, Cons ppsh, Orrah+AT-nade, M3 clowning, Call-Ins
  
• OSTHEER Mg42, Decent infantry, decent arty
  
• OKW
  
  

Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2017, 18:00 PMthekingsown

I came up with the numbers by comparing each individual unit and ability a faction has and compare it to another within an asymmetrical balance framework weighing up the pros and cons. Each unit and ability were given a score taking into account cost, power and overall usefulness in real game situations.

Jump back to quoted post17 Mar 2017, 07:48 AMDonnieChan

+ the best AT gun

+ bonus MG range in house for whatever reason

+ the most cost effective Engineers

+ trenches unhittable by raketen

+ playercard pls

but what you fail to see is the most important point:

with brits you need MAYBE HALF OF THE CLICKS YOU NEED FOR EVERY OTHER FACTION

Jump back to quoted post17 Mar 2017, 15:07 PMGrumpy

I agree with the statements in bold but have a couple of simple question for you and the other people who think brits are OP.

Why is the UKF winrate worse in 1v1 than Ost for the top 250 players? The disparity gets worse when you go outside of the top 250, meaning it is much easier to wreck a mediocre (like me) player who is trying to play UKF.

Shouldn't a faction being OP result in actually winning more games than the UP faction?

Jump back to quoted post17 Mar 2017, 15:25 PMXutryn_X7

It depends how many players chose to play as axis also.If 200 pro Axis player will play vs 1000 mediocre Allies players,Axis player will have a better win ratio

Jump back to quoted post17 Mar 2017, 15:56 PMZombiFrancis

I rate this thread a 79% based on reasons.

Jump back to quoted post17 Mar 2017, 07:48 AMDonnieChan

+ the best AT gun

+ bonus MG range in house for whatever reason

+ the most cost effective Engineers

+ trenches unhittable by raketen

+ playercard pls

but what you fail to see is the most important point:

with brits you need MAYBE HALF OF THE CLICKS YOU NEED FOR EVERY OTHER FACTION