M42 change ideas - Winter Patch 1.2 / 1.3 / 1.4

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2016, 17:35 PMferwiner

My proposition:
I smoked some stuff and thought I should post
What do you think guys?

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2016, 17:38 PMAustralian Magic

I think current M-42 is ok.
Nice RoF, low damage, good vs light vehicles.

For late-game purpuse it might see some vet ability which increases damage/penetration for XX period of time.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2016, 17:50 PM__deleted__

Can we actually try new penals first and then start discussing around lil at gun ?

Tier1 was never meant to have AT gun. Its mobile tier that give you good AI and early game pressure so you can field tanks on your own as counters to enemy tanks.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2016, 17:53 PMTheMachine

Wrong. Conspam gives far better early game pressure than T1 and Penals. Only thing that I can see giving good early pressure is Conspam + quick m3 Clown car.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2016, 17:59 PMDangerous-Cloth

I see this modding balance thing going the wrong way lol

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2016, 18:03 PMJackDickolson

Let's not get confused though. Soviets need nerfs, not buffs and core design circumvention.
Penals need nerfs overall, not buffs.
The M42 is a highly valuable tool and performs right against its intended targets.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2016, 19:57 PMTiger Baron

T70 gun performance.
Raketen garrison ability.
Possibly canister round, mentioned above me.
As said in the other topic about the M42.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2016, 20:46 PMMistah_S

OP, srsly?
You want an AT gun in tier 1 that has both AI and AT?


+1


+1.
Have tried, didnt like, dont want to see PTRS penals


Wut?
Conspam is countered by 2 MG's.
Said 2 MG's get raped by clown car strafing and penal or engy flamer


+1
It's already turning into a clusterf*ck


+1 on all sentences


RIP historical accuracy... No AT gun in the world can fire canister shot...

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2016, 20:46 PMMistah_S

+1.
Have tried, didnt like, dont want to see PTRS penals

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2016, 21:14 PM__deleted__

Sorry, but modders didn´t finished that idea, they want to implement good AI for penals first. Right now tier1 is so inefficient with or without penals with or without m42. There is no particular reason why you want to build little bit stronger yet expensive cons and shitty AT gun when you can have cons, maxims and good AT gun

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2016, 21:29 PMMr. Someguy

Penetration: 140 / 120 / 100
Damage: 120
Ability to Retreat
Rapid Movement at Vet 1
50% deflection damage at Vet 3


Somewhat inspired by the Puma's gun.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2016, 21:29 PMMr. Someguy

Penetration: 140 / 120 / 100
Damage: 120
Ability to Retreat
Rapid Movement at Vet 1
50% deflection damage at Vet 3


Somewhat inspired by the Puma's gun.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2016, 21:59 PMBudwise

Why is access to one of the better AT guns in the game at T2 not enough? Please just stop this agenda of giving Soviets more and more AT.

I really feel like you guys are just f-ing with stuff just to f with stuff.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2016, 21:59 PMBudwise

Why is access to one of the better AT guns in the game at T2 not enough? Please just stop this agenda of giving Soviets more and more AT.

I really feel like you guys are just f-ing with stuff just to f with stuff.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2016, 22:06 PMTheSleep3r

Aside from saving the M-42 from the UP abyss, the whole thing is about not letting the horrible idea of PTRS penals (at least for now, without said AI upgrade) to happen

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2016, 22:09 PMferwiner

When was the last time you have seen m-42 being used? It is a completely forgotten unit. Though it is still something that can be modified into fun to use weapon team with some changes. Like it's said in the post quoted in the OP, that doesn't even have to be a AT solution for T1. These ideas can also be used to salvage commanders if ptrs penals are here to stay.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2016, 21:59 PMBudwise

Why is access to one of the better AT guns in the game at T2 not enough? Please just stop this agenda of giving Soviets more and more AT.

I really feel like you guys are just f-ing with stuff just to f with stuff.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2016, 22:14 PMzerocoh

zis is the worst AT in the game, you can't be real.

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Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2016, 22:15 PMBudwise

lol, play OKW much?

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2016, 21:14 PM__deleted__

Sorry, but modders didn´t finished that idea, they want to implement good AI for penals first. Right now tier1 is so inefficient with or without penals with or without m42. There is no particular reason why you want to build little bit stronger yet expensive cons and shitty AT gun when you can have cons, maxims and good AT gun

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2016, 22:17 PMBudwise

Not sure if serious...