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Give OKW Panzerbüchse 39 (anti tank rifle)

29 Aug 2016, 11:45 AM
#1
avatar of SturmAlpha

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Give OKW a new unit that can engage allies tanks like the british sniper but can only engage tanks, since reketens and sturms with schreks under-perform and are very squishy, in order to deal with allies tank spam, could be built from the Schwere HQ for a hight cost around 400mp or 420, what do you think?
29 Aug 2016, 12:42 PM
#2
avatar of Australian Magic

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Panzerbusche is an idea that appears regulary from time to time.
If anything, I would see Panzerbusche as a upgrade for Volks.

Then Volks would have an option.
Pure AI upgrade
or
Minor AT+Minor AI upgrade by double Panzerbusche (copy past Cons' PTRS).

That would solve many, many issues with T70 or Stuart.
29 Aug 2016, 13:24 PM
#3
avatar of William Christensen

Posts: 401

I prefer the idea of moving Ober to Tier 2 (Medic HQ) then allow them to upgrade with double Schrecks. That way, OKW can open with Tier 2 without being too risky when it comes to deal with LVs rush. Or the idea of double Panzerbusches upgrade for Volks would be nice, but then it will be the whole new Panzerbusche blob thing which frankly, I think it will be a thing since Volks scale to late game better than Cons.‎
29 Aug 2016, 13:36 PM
#4
avatar of some one

Posts: 935

Fix raketten first
29 Aug 2016, 14:30 PM
#5
avatar of aomsinzana

Posts: 284 | Subs: 1

Fix raketten first

+1
exactly what we want man !!!
30 Aug 2016, 08:48 AM
#6
avatar of ullumulu

Posts: 2243

and pls give OKW somethink against MG spam....if a (for example) russian want...he can make a base lock with mgs...and u cant do anything against it in the first 4 minutes



30 Aug 2016, 08:59 AM
#7
avatar of Esxile

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Panzerbusche is an idea that appears regulary from time to time.
If anything, I would see Panzerbusche as a upgrade for Volks.

Then Volks would have an option.
Pure AI upgrade
or
Minor AT+Minor AI upgrade by double Panzerbusche (copy past Cons' PTRS).

That would solve many, many issues with T70 or Stuart.


Then you come back to volkspam/blob all day long.
30 Aug 2016, 09:16 AM
#8
avatar of Katitof

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Would make sense if OKW was very early war faction, not last 6 months one.
30 Aug 2016, 09:21 AM
#9
avatar of Stug life

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jump backJump back to quoted post30 Aug 2016, 09:16 AMKatitof
Would make sense if OKW was very early war faction, not last 6 months one.
well they were starving for resources so they used everything they had I wouldn't be surprised if they don't give the best weapon to the less experienced soldier (volks) an keep the good stuff for veteran (SP,ober)
30 Aug 2016, 09:29 AM
#10
avatar of Katitof

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well they were starving for resources so they used everything they had I wouldn't be surprised if they don't give the best weapon to the less experienced soldier (volks) an keep the good stuff for veteran (SP,ober)

They had excessive amount of pfausts and automatic weaponry.

They struggled for menpower, fuel and resources to build armor.
30 Aug 2016, 09:32 AM
#11
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I'm just here to chuckle at the "regularly... from time to time..." idiom.


30 Aug 2016, 09:33 AM
#12
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jump backJump back to quoted post30 Aug 2016, 09:29 AMKatitof

They had excessive amount of pfausts and automatic weaponry.

They struggled for menpower, fuel and resources to build armor.
ok we could give volks pazerfaust like weapon that behave like ptrs ?
30 Aug 2016, 10:23 AM
#13
avatar of Australian Magic

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jump backJump back to quoted post30 Aug 2016, 08:59 AMEsxile


Then you come back to volkspam/blob all day long.


Becasue...? I don't see Cons PTRS blob after PTRS nerf.
30 Aug 2016, 10:28 AM
#14
avatar of Katitof

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Becasue...? I don't see Cons PTRS blob after PTRS nerf.

There is one difference here.

I'm 100% convinced they don't want theirs to be doctrinal, because reasons.
30 Aug 2016, 11:15 AM
#15
avatar of Captain_Frog

Posts: 248

Isn't the Rakaten a small rocket launcher anyway?

I say fix the firing issue with the Rak first (Missing projectiles, projectiles going through things, etc) then have a look at OKW performance.
30 Aug 2016, 12:09 PM
#16
avatar of Katitof

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Isn't the Rakaten a small rocket launcher anyway?


Its literally panzershreck on wheels.
30 Aug 2016, 12:27 PM
#17
avatar of Cultist_kun

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jump backJump back to quoted post30 Aug 2016, 09:16 AMKatitof
Would make sense if OKW was very early war faction, not last 6 months one.


Would be arugument if soviets from 1941-42 wouldn have fought germans from 1944-45 :snfPeter: Speaking about both Ost and OKW
30 Aug 2016, 12:31 PM
#18
avatar of Katitof

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Would be arugument if soviets from 1941-42 wouldn have fought germans from 1944-45 :snfPeter: Speaking about both Ost and OKW

Except soviets did used all equipment through the whole war and sov army is based on whole conflict duration, while OKW is on extremely specific time and place.

Germans replaced completely some of theirs equipment as well when they made a better one, soviets used theirs until it was destroyed.
30 Aug 2016, 12:37 PM
#19
avatar of Fino

Posts: 191

The panzerbuche does half the damage of a schreck and has 115 penetration as opposed to the 180/170/160 of the schreck.

Would it really help?

Wouldnt it be better to fix the Raketten instead?
30 Aug 2016, 12:43 PM
#20
avatar of Cultist_kun

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jump backJump back to quoted post30 Aug 2016, 12:31 PMKatitof

Except soviets did used all equipment through the whole war and sov army is based on whole conflict duration, while OKW is on extremely specific time and place.

Germans replaced completely some of theirs equipment as well when they made a better one, soviets used theirs until it was destroyed.


Umm ... no? Soviets did use all equipment, but in the game their base equipment representing soviets from 41-42 with shitty basic stuff and more modern call-ins, while both Ost and OKW represents late Werhmacht, with common weapons like StG, Panthers, Schrecks, Fausts and so on.
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