Grenadier survivability buff - Target priority

• Whilst the squad still has 4 members remaining, any members with less than 50% health has a lower chance (10%?) of being targeted (in effect partially distributing the received DPS for the first half off a shoot out)
  
• Replace (or combine) Vet 1 medkits with "Draw fire": [Passive bonus] Any squad member with more than 20 health than the others has a 50% chance of being targeted.
  
  
  Why grens and not other squad types? Because reasons... Asymmetric balance, alternative to 5th man upgrade, whatever
  
  Interestingly enough, this is kinda an indirect buff for snipers who then maximise their efficiency by going for the full health models... But it's kind of an indirect nerf to explosive damage based weapons (mortars, tanks, etc) by reducing the chance of a model drop after they've done their damage
  

Jump back to quoted post7 Jul 2016, 09:54 AMMissCommissar

Stop suggesting "survivability increasing" for Grens, pls! Grens designed to be "long-range firepower > HP". Cons are vise versa - HP > anyrange firepower. That's what Relic call assymetrical balance. (But that's not balance at all, cos power > HP is more reliable).

Anyway, if Grens gonna get survivability boost, no matter what it will be - cons will have to get firepower boost. For such exchange I agree. And one-side increasing survivability for Grens will just make them OP. Right now they just fine.

P.S. Don't know, why people don't like medkits so much. They can be really helpful, when your squad at frontline get's mortar mine in face, has no models dead but all overdamaged. Spend 20 ammo - and no need to retreat to healing point + HP regen may help in firefight seriously. In any case - medkits > flaremins. First can be useful in real combat, second can't be useful, if you don't use them as buged strucure mine.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jul 2016, 09:56 AMStug life

you got on a superior lvl of fan boy right by saying that med kit are good they are literally never used NEVER USED

Jump back to quoted post7 Jul 2016, 09:54 AMMissCommissar

Stop suggesting "survivability increasing" for Grens, pls!
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Jump back to quoted post7 Jul 2016, 10:06 AMNEVEC

I will eat my hat if grenadiers will have 5 man squad.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jul 2016, 10:12 AMJespe

I could even buy this one if it would come from tier 4, and the 5 guys would be loader without a gun when upgraded to MG42

Jump back to quoted post7 Jul 2016, 10:04 AMElSlayer

"Cuz I don't like when you do it"

Jump back to quoted post7 Jul 2016, 10:00 AMMissCommissar

Er... what? I use them, pretty often. It helps to keep units at frontline and hold it longer and effective, instead of constant retreat after each shot/blow near to squad.

I only think, that they should be cheaper, 10 ammo would be fine. Or tommymedkits should cost more, cos it's pretty strange, that I have to pay 20 ammo each time when I need to heal 1 squad, while they getting eternal healing ability, free to use, working as aura + that upgrade increases their survivability.

Anyway, medkits are good. Help you to stay alive under fire.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jul 2016, 11:50 AMStug life

med kit require you to stand still , can't fight , can't be self used, cost 20 mun and requires vet 1 ( med bunker cost 60 mun but last forever )

Jump back to quoted post7 Jul 2016, 11:50 AMStug life

med kit require you to stand still , can't fight , can't be self used, cost 20 mun and requires vet 1 ( med bunker cost 60 mun but last forever )

Jump back to quoted post7 Jul 2016, 10:41 AMTiger Baron

Question is, does it only affect Grenadiers or all Wehrmacht infantry in general, for example Pioneers and Panzergrenadiers would also benefit from this or else this should have a lower cost than the British one since it's only buffing a single squad unlike the British one which is buffing 2.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jul 2016, 10:41 AMTiger Baron

I don't think that's possible from a modding point of view.

Still tho, a British sort of 5th man upgrade would be possible in let's say, T1, or T0, I really don't make a difference. Question is, does it only affect Grenadiers or all Wehrmacht infantry in general, for example Pioneers and Panzergrenadiers would also benefit from this or else this should have a lower cost than the British one since it's only buffing a single squad unlike the British one which is buffing 2.