So Guys i was thinking why did relic not change jp4 price when they moved it to tier 3 after all it has less pen than panther no mg and cone vision but has less reload time (Panther cost only 65 more fuel)
Would lower it's price to 100-110 be ok , or buff pen to 210 ?
Jagdpanzer 4 price
20 Jun 2016, 23:45 PM
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20 Jun 2016, 23:50 PM
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It's stronger then an SU-85, don't really see why it should be cheaper then it.
20 Jun 2016, 23:54 PM
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jagdpanzer is great, why change it
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20 Jun 2016, 23:58 PM
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It's stronger then an SU-85, don't really see why it should be cheaper then it.???????????????
http://www.stat.coh2.hu/squad.php?filename=jagdpanzer_tank_destroyer_squad_mp
185 pen cons vision ( can't see flank or back)
New su-85 has the " I see you ability" and more pen
Why should I build a jp4 instead of the panther ?
Before it was in tier 1 and the price was reasonable but now no more
Btw here the stats of current su 85 http://www.stat.coh2.hu/weapon.php?filename=su85_d5t_85mm__mp
Has more pen cost less has sight ability same reload (4.88 jp4 4.13 su 85)
<and omega warrior was never seen again legend still talk about him traveling trought forum while not really knowing unit stats>
(Maybe because he has fear of nazi but we will never know goodbye sweet price)
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21 Jun 2016, 00:16 AM
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21 Jun 2016, 00:21 AM
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???????????????Yeah it has a higher rate of fire and more armor vs lower armored, less pen targets. Plus su-85 just got more expensive too.
http://www.stat.coh2.hu/squad.php?filename=jagdpanzer_tank_destroyer_squad_mp
185 pen cons vision ( can't see flank or back)
New su-85 has the " I see you ability" and more pen
Why should I build a jp4 instead of the panther ?
Before it was in tier 1 and the price was reasonable but now no more
Btw here the stats of current su 85 http://www.stat.coh2.hu/weapon.php?filename=su85_d5t_85mm__mp
Has more pen cost less has sight ability same reload (4.88 jp4 4.13 su 85)
<and omega warrior was never seen again legend still talk about him traveling trought forum while not really knowing unit stats>
(Maybe because he has fear of nazi but we will never know goodbye sweet price)
21 Jun 2016, 00:23 AM
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I don't mind the camo that much, but the vet 5 is straight up retarded
21 Jun 2016, 00:26 AM
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I don't mind the camo that much, but the vet 5 is straight up retarded
I ain't a fan of light vehicles miraculously surviving that long getting one-shot either.
Fuckin' vetted JPIVs/Fireflies.
21 Jun 2016, 00:27 AM
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Plus, it has more armour, better fire rate, smaller size and non-penetrating hits do damage. Oh, and better vet ability
21 Jun 2016, 00:29 AM
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Plus, it has more armour, better fire rate, smaller size and non-penetrating hits do damage. Oh, and better vet abilitywhat were ? Apart for target size and armor all are wrost ( vet is okw prof ) cost more
And btw deflect damage is multiplayer is 0
And how much is 160 x 1 x 0 might need to redo math bro
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21 Jun 2016, 00:33 AM
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I ain't a fan of light vehicles miraculously surviving that long getting one-shot either.
Fuckin' vetted JPIVs/Fireflies.
OKW Mark target+vet5 JP is fun
you can basically one shot a Pershing when he drives up, pretty sure it works on an IS-2 as well
21 Jun 2016, 00:34 AM
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lol that's true
OKW Mark target+vet5 JP is fun
you can basically one shot a Pershing when he drives up
But that's the camo dat is not coded well (phase hit box) and almost no cd on dat
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21 Jun 2016, 00:38 AM
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TheI don't see itElefantelephant in the room for discussing JPIV
(Btw relic need to recode the ability from scratch)
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21 Jun 2016, 00:43 AM
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21 Jun 2016, 01:15 AM
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NEW Su85 vs JPIV
Acc: 0.055/0.045/0.04 vs 0.06 / 0.04
Pen: 240/230/220 vs 200.0/185.0/170.0
Reload*: 5.4 vs 4.75
Size: 18 vs 17
Pop: 12 vs 14
Speed: 5.7 (2.85) vs 5.5
Acceleration: 2.1 vs 1.9
Deceleration: 4.3 vs 3.6
Rotation rate: 22 vs 20
Sight: 35 (49/75/105) vs 45
Cost: 350mp/130f vs 400mp/135f
Armor: 140 vs 230
Rear armor: 70 vs 80
Unlocks the 'Tracking' ability
+30% penetration, +30% accuracy
-20% reload, +20% rotation speed, +20% speed, +20% ac/de-celeration
vs
Unlocks the 'Cautious Movement' ability
+10% armour, +25% HP, +35% sight range
+20% rotation speed, +20% speed, -10% reload
-15% reload, +15% accuracy
For first shot fired out of camouflage +150% damage & +150% accuracy & +150% penetration
*I'm stating the reload without the fire/ready aim times which in general is 0.25 the sum of both. For some reason statscohhu states cooldown which has a 0 duration if i'm not mistaken.
Acc: 0.055/0.045/0.04 vs 0.06 / 0.04
Pen: 240/230/220 vs 200.0/185.0/170.0
Reload*: 5.4 vs 4.75
Size: 18 vs 17
Pop: 12 vs 14
Speed: 5.7 (2.85) vs 5.5
Acceleration: 2.1 vs 1.9
Deceleration: 4.3 vs 3.6
Rotation rate: 22 vs 20
Sight: 35 (49/75/105) vs 45
Cost: 350mp/130f vs 400mp/135f
Armor: 140 vs 230
Rear armor: 70 vs 80
Unlocks the 'Tracking' ability
+30% penetration, +30% accuracy
-20% reload, +20% rotation speed, +20% speed, +20% ac/de-celeration
vs
Unlocks the 'Cautious Movement' ability
+10% armour, +25% HP, +35% sight range
+20% rotation speed, +20% speed, -10% reload
-15% reload, +15% accuracy
For first shot fired out of camouflage +150% damage & +150% accuracy & +150% penetration
*I'm stating the reload without the fire/ready aim times which in general is 0.25 the sum of both. For some reason statscohhu states cooldown which has a 0 duration if i'm not mistaken.
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And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
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21 Jun 2016, 01:22 AM
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NEW Su85 vs JPIV
Acc: 0.055/0.045/0.04 vs 0.06 / 0.04
Pen: 240/230/220 vs 200.0/185.0/170.0
Reload*: 5.4 vs 4.75
Size: 18 vs 17
Pop: 12 vs 14
Speed: 5.7 (2.85) vs 5.5
Acceleration: 2.1 vs 1.9
Deceleration: 4.3 vs 3.6
Rotation rate: 22 vs 20
Sight: 35 (49/75/105) vs 45
Cost: 350mp/130f vs 400mp/135f
Armor: 140 vs 230
Rear armor: 70 vs 80
Unlocks the 'Tracking' ability
+30% penetration, +30% accuracy
-20% reload, +20% rotation speed, +20% speed, +20% ac/de-celeration
vs
Unlocks the 'Cautious Movement' ability
+10% armour, +25% HP, +35% sight range
+20% rotation speed, +20% speed, -10% reload
-15% reload, +15% accuracy
For first shot fired out of camouflage +150% damage & +150% accuracy & +150% penetration
*I'm stating the reload without the fire/ready aim times which in general is 0.25 the sum of both. For some reason statscohhu states cooldown which has a 0 duration if i'm not mistaken.
Jpz IV still better with uber Klingon cloaking field, Tracking is useless vet ability anyway, at vet 2 Jpz can spot for itself too. The onlything SU-85 is better is pen which is not a concern for Jpz since all Soviet armor are paper armour anyway and first strike bonus means your first shot will always damage.
21 Jun 2016, 01:28 AM
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I didn't know the SU got buffed recently.
21 Jun 2016, 01:29 AM
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JP4 is plain best TD in the game when you think of vet and cost to performance ratio. I would rather ask why it's price didn't go up after okw economy changes.
21 Jun 2016, 02:01 AM
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NEW Su85 vs JPIV
Acc: 0.055/0.045/0.04 vs 0.06 / 0.04
Pen: 240/230/220 vs 200.0/185.0/170.0
Reload*: 5.4 vs 4.75
Size: 18 vs 17
Pop: 12 vs 14
Speed: 5.7 (2.85) vs 5.5
Acceleration: 2.1 vs 1.9
Deceleration: 4.3 vs 3.6
Rotation rate: 22 vs 20
Sight: 35 (49/75/105) vs 45
Cost: 350mp/130f vs 400mp/135f
Armor: 140 vs 230
Rear armor: 70 vs 80
Unlocks the 'Tracking' ability
+30% penetration, +30% accuracy
-20% reload, +20% rotation speed, +20% speed, +20% ac/de-celeration
vs
Unlocks the 'Cautious Movement' ability
+10% armour, +25% HP, +35% sight range
+20% rotation speed, +20% speed, -10% reload
-15% reload, +15% accuracy
For first shot fired out of camouflage +150% damage & +150% accuracy & +150% penetration
*I'm stating the reload without the fire/ready aim times which in general is 0.25 the sum of both. For some reason statscohhu states cooldown which has a 0 duration if i'm not mistaken.
So yeah they are pretty close in value. With the SU-85 having the advantage of pen and mobility and the Jagd having armor and RoF.
Jagdpanzer is useful because it's the only OKW tank without an inflated cost making it good if you lack fuel and need emergency AT. It'll also out DPS a panther. It's also real great at protecting your other tanks from allied TDs, especially since it will win a head on fight vs all the allied TDs.
Seems like it's in a perfectly good spot.
21 Jun 2016, 02:25 AM
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probably because it has a romulan cloaking device
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