Valiant assault VS For Mother Russia
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+50% accuracy to HMG's
they have the same cost and cps but not the duration or the bonuses. the VA lasts for 30 sec and FMR 60 sec
Is clear that these abillties need to be balanced out.
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You are overlooking something incredibly obvious, for Mother Russia then has a long punishing debuff after.
I think that "For Mother Russia" no longer has a cooldown.
However the "right" way to use valiant assault is to help a schreck (soon, faust+schreck) blob close in on enemy tanks. Soviets don't have access to AT infantry (and conscripts can already hoorah without the ability anyway).
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You are overlooking something incredibly obvious, for Mother Russia then has a long punishing debuff after.
As far as i know, there are no debuffs. Relic removed them a long time ago.
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for mother russia is on a garbage commander
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this is a joke thread right?
for mother russia is on a garbage commander
And that negates his direct comparison between two distinct abilities how exactly?
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Meanwhile OKW has the best baseline units in the game
When was the last time anyone saw counterattack being used? Before the B-4 nerf? I see valiant assault being used on volk blobs to chase down armor all the time
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this is a joke thread right?
for mother russia is on a garbage commander
You have the right to your opinion, mine is that it is a good commander. Not the best but solid.
1 KV1 and techi after it, with 2-3 cons, shock troopers combined with "FMR" can be very good.
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You have the right to your opinion, mine is that it is a good commander. Not the best but solid.
1 KV1 and techick after it, with 2-3 cons shocktroopers combined with "FMR" can be very good.
If they were THAT good, everyone would use it.
On the contrary, Falls doc is almost top-most choice, even on high ranked game.
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If they were THAT good, everyone would use it.
On the contrary, Falls doc is almost top-most choice, even on high ranked game.
I did say that it is a good commander, not THAT good. And if you combine his abilities right you can have a very good result. I saw high ranked games where he was used and actually won.
Again, its not the best one but a solid one.
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Both abilities were fine for the past 2 years, they'll be fine for the following few.
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does FMR increase the accuracy of the b4 like it used to buff its damage? anyone know?
It doesn't.
It used to increase damage by 50%, but at the moment it does nothing for it if I remember correctly.
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You are overlooking something incredibly obvious, for Mother Russia then has a long punishing debuff after.
yeah theres definitely no debuffs for mother russia anymore. not even a speed debuff.
back to main topic, OKW has shreks infantry, ober lmgs, falls, etc that get affected by valiant assault, basically units that are really strong without a buff.
soviets infantry wise get conscripts, which are shit for dps, lets be real and then shocks. who have to get penile sword fighting range close to do ober like damage. and then like engineers.
and maybe penals. but nobody goes penals+shock doc in this current patch.
that leaves the team weapons like the maxim, which doesnt get the speed buff, and to top it off, when it suppresses stuff, its accuracy gain gets offset due to how supression works unless the enemy squad is unlucky to not get suppressed or is in green cover.
so its obvious, and not an issue as to why the soviet alahu akbar ability is so strong in comparison to valiant assault to me.
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When was the last time anyone saw counterattack being used? Before the B-4 nerf? I see valiant assault being used on volk blobs to chase down armor all the time
Well I used the B4 in a 2vs2 a couple of days ago, against double OKW on crossing in the woods. Got 40+ kills with the B4 [I used those 3x3% accuracy bulletins for the B4]
To be fair, the scatter is to much. Even on small maps like crossing. For a single shot with a relative long cooldown.
I thought FMR affects the howitzer accuracy as well...
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yeah theres definitely no debuffs for mother russia anymore. not even a speed debuff.
Okay cheers.
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