Molotovs suck

Jump back to quoted post11 May 2016, 06:42 AMHighfiveeeee

I honestly think it is fine.

The pros and cons can be found in the factions (Sovs/OKW) and not the grenades themselves I guess.

OKW:

...has absolutely no other tool to clear buildings early game (con)
...is starving munitions the whole game (con)
...is throwing the nade pretty fast (pro)
...get the nade for free from the start (pro)

Sovs:

...have to tech the grenade for fuel (con)
...throw slow as a sloth (con)
...have almost unlimited munitions in the mid to late game in many cases (pro)
...can get a mortar early to clear buildings (pro)

Jump back to quoted post11 May 2016, 06:55 AMVuther

That kinda has more to do with the Soviets not upgrading anything without Guard docs (until the latest patch preview because now Penals are useful whoooooooo).

It'll still be mostly the case since every other faction has numerous upgrade options for AI and AT in most builds while Soviets still just only have flamethrowers, but it'll definitely lessen a tad for many Soviet builds.

Jump back to quoted post11 May 2016, 06:42 AMHighfiveeeee

I honestly think it is fine.
Sovs:

...have to tech the grenade for fuel (con)
...throw slow as a sloth (con)
...have almost unlimited munitions in the mid to late game in many cases (pro)
...can get a mortar early to clear buildings (pro)

Jump back to quoted post11 May 2016, 21:57 PMWingZero

Molo should be thrown exactly like the incendiary grenades.

Jump back to quoted post11 May 2016, 04:22 AMMissCommissar

Molotovs suck just because of 2 things:

1. Speed of throwing.

2. Range of throwing.

Both of this things just making using that grenade too dangerous for your conscripts, cos they very often dying under fire, while trying to throw Molotov + it's very easy to dodge that grenade. Even MG-42 can move out of buidling before it will hit the ground.

1. Improve both of those Molotovs stats - range and speed of throwing, but increase greande cost to 20-25 ammo.

Jump back to quoted post12 May 2016, 13:20 PMSchmitz

What do molotovs cost to get? like 120 Mp and 15 fuel? What does one of the soviet tech structures cost? 100 and some fuel? OKW needs to tech to get the flame grenade and the teching costs 300 manpower (truck + set up) and at least 45 fuel (truck + set up). Wehrmacht needs to tech to get the rifle grenade.

These threads are ridiculous. You don't see the top guys complaining. Why? Because they play all the factions and know that it's pretty well balanced as is.

Jump back to quoted post10 May 2016, 21:31 PMG4bb4_G4nd4lf

And you need more than just one regular grenade to clear buildings

Jump back to quoted post12 May 2016, 16:00 PMFalseAlarm

I have more than 3 of them but they will be useless pretty soon. (stacking won't be allowed)


I think the player should be granted with 30 munis every time he uses the ability. It is that bad.