Do volks really need stg44?

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2016, 16:19 PMC0ffeebeanz

Not a terrible idea, but idk...wouldn't that put a lot of weight on Sturmpio's shoulders? Building, repairing, sweeping, tank-hunting? You'd need to make at least two every game. It gives it sort of a Panzer Elite feel but I think Sturms should stick to being primarily support/repair units.

It's not like the Shreck is OKW's only source of AT against early light vehicles...I think people have forgotten how good a Puma is in the right hands.

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2016, 20:45 PMZombiFrancis

That's the thing though, if they are intending to be defensive units, that fancy stock MG34 has the capabilities to suppress anything at range.

A squad with SMGs is excellent at defending an MG from a closing flank.

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2016, 15:53 PMmiragefla

Were they charging into cons? Volks have terrible RA bonuses which might be changed.They aren't assault infantry. If vs Cons and eary USF, let them come to you.

The StG by mid-late game is support DPS against mid-short range Allied infantry while Volks provide faust support. Volks by mid-late should be supplemented by MGs from the HQ, call-ins, or Obers.

Also, Raketens are near levels of other ATGs in my mod. I didn't think they should keep the cloak gimmick stock. It has the same accuracy as other ATGs and has a rate of fire on par with the 6pdr. I'll attempt to do so more spacing changes and redjust price.

As for possible AT rifles, I'll think about it or give Sturms shrecks so Volks aren't the solution to everything early game. But we'll have to see.

Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2016, 20:46 PMrush

You need to get a real job m8 and stop screwing with balance, relic was so short on staff they had to use ur ideas.
Most changes were good , but u ruined OKW .

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2016, 16:13 PMmiragefla

Yes, but it means there's still less smoke along the approach to the MG if he's smoking at range 30 rather than range 15-20 you have much more time to prepare units for the assault through the smoke and you'll get sight of them much sooner. It also means your opponent has much less sight as he had to the toss the smoke much closer to himself versus his opponent.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 00:27 AMGenObi

Seems that okw players will simply have to adapt, sorry guys no more easy wins. Your gonna have to learn to snare and use combine arms to bring down tanks, no more mass blobs of dooms that you been getri g away with.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 00:46 AMTobis

I like it, they feel really unique with the mix of long and short range damage. Would like if they were buffed mp-40s just because few units use them, but it's no big deal.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 00:49 AMIronFist

There's no snaring like with Grens. If you watch Relic's Thursday broadcast they mention VGs fasut will cause no engine crits/damage. It will have a longer range than a Gren's and it will do more damage. If you want a Gren like faust as OKW, you'll need Fallschirmjägers.

It sounds like the idea is between the increased damage VG faust and the RW, they will chase off enemy light vehicles, possibly destroying them with enough hits but it'll be a different dynamic than OH.

Depending on damage increase, you might be able to still field VGs in some numbers, save your mun and faust a vehicle to death. It would introduce a choice in how you spend your MUN, incendiary vs faust.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 00:51 AMCultist_kun

They are suffering from consctipts syndrome.

Volks are still very-very weak, and they cant usually stay in the fire fight by their own. They still got stomped by rifles in most of the cases, tommy rapes them, penals and any doc inf eats them.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 01:06 AMHikuran

Volks need G43, not Stg44

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 01:09 AMHans G. Schultz

I'd leave the G43s to Ostheer and Panzerfussies. I'd rather see the squad receive 5x mp40s all better than the weapon team's version. It would turn them into a better version of assault grenadiers.