Should the zook upgrade be limited to rangers/paras only?

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2016, 17:49 PMSirWinshue HueHue

Don't undermine your credibility with such inaccurate claims. The zook deals 100 and shrecks deals 120 damage, and some slight pen difference.



Shreck costs 90 muni (rip) while the zook costs 50 muni haha

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2016, 17:49 PMSirWinshue HueHue

Don't undermine your credibility with such inaccurate claims. The zook deals 100 and shrecks deals 120 damage, and some slight pen difference.



Shreck costs 90 muni (rip) while the zook costs 50 muni haha

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2016, 17:36 PMTobis

Ok, so you pretty much just ignored everything I said. Fantastic.

The panzerschreck is twice as good as bazookas, it's not a fair comparison to say USF can get out twice the number of AT weapons when theirs are half as effective.

At a squad level, there are clear dps drawbacks to the bazooka. You cannot deny this. Saying you can make other rifle squads and give them mgs is true, but why can't OKW do the same thing? Stop blobbing only volks and expecting to beat an army of better units. Rifles are more expensive and better than volks, get some elite infantry ffs. Get some obers, falls, panzerfusilliers, or jaegers.

Yes, I do think that giving volks a choice between a panzerschreck and another upgrade would be an improvement. The problem is that nobody is going to bother to upgrade with anything besides schrecks unless the other upgrade is equally as powerful, which would be unjustifiable on a squad as cheap as volks.

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2016, 18:01 PMHitman5

I didn't ignore what you said, I feel the intricacies of squad DPS is irrelevant when you look at the bigger picture as I said. Panzerschreck is not twice as good as Bazooka. Ratio of Panzerschrek to Bazooka is like 2:3. 180 munitions vs 150 munitions.

I didn't deny the drawbacks, what I'm saying is that USF has plenty of options to overcome them and they still get something in return, compared to OKW who has one benefit or destroyed faction because the upgrade is so important. Rifles at vet 3 with LMGs can easily stand up to and beat any of those units you mentioned, despite being cheaper than all of them.

Volks is 30 MP cheaper than Rifles. No reason why price can't be increased and given an upgrade to make a choice.

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2016, 18:03 PMTobis

Look, I don't want to be that guy, but you've literally never played a game as allies before. Gain some perspective first before I argue with you more.

https://www.coh2.org/ladders/playercard/steamid/76561197995698656

If you want any tips I can help you.

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2016, 18:14 PMHitman5

Btw, I have played games as allies but they are not high enough ranked to show there and some under AT games.

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2016, 17:49 PMSirWinshue HueHue

Don't undermine your credibility with such inaccurate claims. The zook deals 100 and shrecks deals 120 damage, and some slight pen difference.



Shreck costs 90 muni (rip) while the zook costs 50 muni haha

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2016, 18:14 PMHitman5

"Ok, so you pretty much just ignored everything I said. Fantastic."

Do you usually resort to this when you can't make an argument in return?

Btw, I have played games as allies but they are not high enough ranked to show there and some under AT games.

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2016, 17:57 PMTobis

The bazooka does 80, the schrecks do 120.

The panzersxhreck is also more accurate, has 170 penetration compared to 120 with the bazookas, and will be fighting allied vehicles, which usually have a lot less armor. You aren't going to scratch a panther with bazookas.

Taking up 2 weapon slots to match the schreck is also a big deal.

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2016, 04:03 AMTobis

One zook isn't going to do anything, it's not worth it.

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2016, 20:58 PMZombiFrancis

If you're fighting a rifleblob and they throw down a few hundred munis in zooks, just park your vehicles away in a defensive role. Use your tank(s) to keep squads from capping your flanks.

If those zooks are your opponents main source of AT, their blob is all they have. If they run out to the flanks with it, you just run away while gaining the map advantage. If he stays put, you've contained the blob and likewise gain the map advantage. Plus a contained blob is much easier to blow up with indirect fire.

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2016, 18:22 PMKatitof

Damn, the butthurt over one of the most cancerous things in coh2 going away is real

Hilarious seeing all these pure aryan playercard owners losing their murbles over loss of shrecks

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2016, 04:02 AMSirWinshue HueHue

I just speaks some wisdom for relic PR guys who are lurking on these forums. I give them balance revelations, if they are mature enough, they take my advice and implement them via the attribute editor. If not, then their loss