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20 Apr 2016, 14:38 PM
#181
avatar of Dullahan

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I am all in favour of a nerf to Maxims, but Soviets T1 should be then made more viable, especially the M3A1 and considering the tier itself doesn't provide any AT tool (so you are subject to suffer against both Luchs and 222s and you are pretty much always forced to go Guards - which I think are overperforming when played correctly)


Just build the 160/20 T2...

You don't have to commit to one or the other. Getting both is pretty straightforward.
20 Apr 2016, 15:05 PM
#182
avatar of RedT3rror

Posts: 747 | Subs: 2



Just build the 160/20 T2...

You don't have to commit to one or the other. Getting both is pretty straightforward.


Getting both will cost you a good amount of manpower and time.
20 Apr 2016, 15:10 PM
#183
avatar of Dullahan

Posts: 1384



Getting both will cost you a good amount of manpower and time.


320 mp and 35 fuel.
It's about 90 seconds of resources, plus the build time which is like 15 seconds.


20 Apr 2016, 15:19 PM
#184
avatar of RedT3rror

Posts: 747 | Subs: 2



320 mp and 35 fuel.
It's about 90 seconds of resources, plus the build time which is like 15 seconds.




Mp is essential in the early game. You also need a pioneer to build it.
20 Apr 2016, 15:25 PM
#185
avatar of ElSlayer

Posts: 1605 | Subs: 1



320 mp and 35 fuel.
It's about 90 seconds of resources, plus the build time which is like 15 seconds.




Yeah, I was very happy when they lowered starting fuel for SU, but made it possible to build both T1 and T2.

But still if you build T1, M3A1, T2, ATG and tech AT nades you should skip T3 vehicle because of how late it comes out (or even not tech up further and pick commander with late call-in vehicles).

It is better to go T1 only and try to make up absense of ATG by picking Tank Hunter Tactics or any doctrine with guards and then go straight to T3 and T-70 (or even SU-76 to counter mediums if you're losing the fuel race)
20 Apr 2016, 15:39 PM
#186
avatar of frostbite

Posts: 593

your very right... but nothing will ever be done
20 Apr 2016, 15:40 PM
#187
avatar of frostbite

Posts: 593

So, because all discussion is going here (not in my thread :( ,but it was the first). I will join you and ask moders to close and delete my thread.

Now about patch:
1. Nerf M1910 - Ok, it is to powerfull and used as mainline infantry. If you want to make mainline infantry viable - buff it or rebalance. Maxim nerf is only the half of solution.
2. I am still don't understand, why Relic don't do something with appendix of USSR base teching - Tier One. 2.1 M3 is to expensive for light car (you pay 25 fuel for first one and very rarely build more than one).
2.2 Penal can be fully replaced by Conscripts and enginiers.
2.3 Sniper team very fragile and don't get any support weapon, unlike British or German Sniper (No MG, No mortars and no AT gun.
3. T-34 still useless for Tier 4 or still too expensive for spamtank. Unlike M4 or Cromwell it can't kill infantry or tanks effectivly.
4. SU-85 still urealible Tank Destroyer. Too RNG penetration in late game.
5. Still big number of outclassed Doctrines for USSR and Wehrmacht.
6. USA still have expensive T1 and T2. Make them consistent and cheaper maybe. Nerf rifles, but give to USA support weapon earlier.

your very right but nothing will ever be done
20 Apr 2016, 15:44 PM
#188
avatar of frostbite

Posts: 593



Panther still needs a ton of support or it will get overwhelmed by ~3 t-34's

this is very true to, a noob running in with a panther will get owned by 3 t76s.and he wil be very stupid to go up against 3 t76 by itself. bring a shrek squad and atgun n all t76 die... always back up with the panther in first place... front armor and better deflect from long rng....noobs man trying to justify stuff
20 Apr 2016, 15:46 PM
#189
avatar of frostbite

Posts: 593

and on some real shii I don't even care about the nerf...allies been going through same shii since beginning...ima smash regardless.. adapt all day play harder. n keep nerfing us fk it
20 Apr 2016, 16:17 PM
#190
avatar of Hans G. Schultz

Posts: 875 | Subs: 2

It's Hitler's birthday, so it makes sense that Relic would nerf the Allies. :snfPeter:
20 Apr 2016, 16:20 PM
#191
avatar of Crecer13

Posts: 2184 | Subs: 2

It's Hitler's birthday, so it makes sense that Relic would nerf the Allies. :snfPeter:


Lol, I thought about it too. Relic pleased grandfather Adolf
20 Apr 2016, 16:24 PM
#192
avatar of Hans G. Schultz

Posts: 875 | Subs: 2



Lol, I thought about it too. Relic pleased grandfather Adolf

Let us all sing!

Zum Geburtstag viel Glück!
Zum Geburtstag viel Glück!
Zum Geburtstag das Führer!
Zum Geburtstag viel Glück!
20 Apr 2016, 16:38 PM
#193
avatar of luq1608

Posts: 117





that has come out this patch for me not even gets in the steam
20 Apr 2016, 17:01 PM
#194
avatar of Bananenheld

Posts: 1593 | Subs: 1

and on some real shii I don't even care about the nerf...allies been going through same shii since beginning...ima smash regardless.. adapt all day play harder. n keep nerfing us fk it


its a good thing when the community has member like you, who dont care how biased relic is towards axis and keep fighting as underdog against the massivly overpowered axis units ( sturmpios? LOL):hansGASM:

you should become a MOD or something
20 Apr 2016, 17:40 PM
#195
avatar of Muad'Dib

Posts: 368

Any clue about when the patch drops? In-game timer (can't check myself)?
20 Apr 2016, 17:42 PM
#196
avatar of Hans G. Schultz

Posts: 875 | Subs: 2

Any clue about when the patch drops? In-game timer (can't check myself)?

I think it's sometime around 4:00 PM CST.
20 Apr 2016, 17:50 PM
#197
avatar of ofield

Posts: 420

I like it, really. Make Maxim cost 260 MP and set-up longer. Without buffing arc of fire or suppression...

I just don't understand, they last time buffed 222 scout car without increasing cost or something like that, but Maxim they nerfing without any buffs in back...

Is that some kind of joke - we will buff axis without balancing and nerf soviets without compensation...

Just don't understand... want to cry.


It's Hitler's birthday present. Happy Birthday Adolf!
20 Apr 2016, 17:59 PM
#198
avatar of Hans G. Schultz

Posts: 875 | Subs: 2

jump backJump back to quoted post20 Apr 2016, 17:50 PMofield


It's Hitler's birthday present. Happy Birthday Adolf!

Should we host the party at the Reichstag, Hitler's Arctic Base, or Hitler's Moon Base?
20 Apr 2016, 18:06 PM
#199
avatar of Crecer13

Posts: 2184 | Subs: 2


Should we host the party at the Reichstag, Hitler's Arctic Base, or Hitler's Moon Base?


Of course, take a punch and pajamas
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