Layoffs at Relic? And the future of COH2

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2016, 11:50 AMVon Kluge

Thank you for reminding me that a balance dev has a customer facing job.

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2016, 11:10 AMCultist_kun

There is thing called "reputation" and when you have 2 fucked up ESLs and almost fucked up third one, when you fix 1 bug and add 99, there is reson why you wanna hide your pretty face or fire some guy to blame, you know.

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2016, 12:25 PMKatitof

Except, its NOT designers who are to blame for bugs, but developers.

Not the guys coming up with ideas and balance, but the ones who code.

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2016, 12:31 PMPencilBatRation

http://steamcharts.com/app/231430#7d

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2016, 12:32 PMpugzii

The majority of the changes in these patches are just tweaking scripts and unit variables. This is something a balance designer would normally do, not a programmer.

If you remember, they said the delay to the original vet-fix was they needed programmers to do some fixing (meaning it was outside of their abilities).

The majority of bugs and issues with the game was down to the poor QA and shitty work done by Brad tweaking the games high level scripts and unit variables. I honestly believe he was let go due to the embarrassment of the patches.

Every game company has tracking and statistics involved with every patch launch and the leads probably noticed the amount of patches and hotfixes for the patches and hotfix for the patches patch that kept happening.

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2016, 12:48 PMKatitof

Well, yes and no, designer MAY change the values, but it is up to developer to build a patch for it as its a lil bit more then clicking "overwrite" button.




1) No need to tell me this really
2) You don't really need statistics to see these things, community manager informing of issues as they appear and product director who doesn't have head up his rear armor is enough to make a noise. Designers themselves aren't(shouldn't at least) be locked out of the outer world either.

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2016, 12:48 PMKatitof

Well, yes and no, designer MAY change the values, but it is up to developer to build a patch for it as its a lil bit more then clicking "overwrite" button.

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2016, 13:01 PMCultist_kun

Even if yes, then what ? With amount of bugs and shit we had with every patch, even if there is some-one to build patches, it dosent make them some how better. Fact is fact, that IF brad make changes (and I'm sure that 99% changes are made by him, except for core "functions" like reversing, deep vet fixing, working with core functions and so on) no-one check them and barrely test them.

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2016, 13:03 PMJohnSmith

The reverse function was merely an added "if" function, with distance calculation, nothing else fancy. It was oversold as a major change to the pathfinding, along with fancy videos.. urgh.

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2016, 12:29 PMvoltardark

Support the game by playing it and buying some stuff from the store !

Rest assured the game is not dead. Long live to the king of team Rts!

Thanks

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2016, 13:06 PMThunderhun

Yeah...sure. Buy me all the overpriced DLCs, I want the +300 euros bundle.