Russians get the greatest AT & ARTY gun out of T1?
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The Russian AT gun is ridiculous. A tier 1 unit that has the ability to destroy vehicles AND kill any infantry, emplacements, and other AT guns is OP. Might as well put a motor on it and let it run around the field at high speed. A MAXIM with its infinite supply of crew members, a blisteringly fast reorientation speed and NO PACK UP TIME is all you need to support the BEST AT CRAWL IN THE GAME. Add SU-85s to that and its just a joke.
I think think the AT gun is op, the MG is though.
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Fyi Vet 2 SU-85 can TWO shot a Stug, so don't try that route.
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Having an effective crew size of 2 vs. an effective crew size of 5 + artillery barrage simply isn't worth 360 MP despite the pak's faster reload time.
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Although the Soviets do have the advantage of being able to recrew with scripts. But by the time mid-late game comes around they will easily be decrewed by all the arty and pgren spam.
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I quite enjoyed stealing a Zis and artillery barraging two guards to death in two shells. SU-85s just need severely toning down, there like Fireflies on steroids. The main problem is they can fire due to there los boost and 60 range but no one can return fire.
Fyi Vet 2 SU-85 can TWO shot a Stug, so don't try that route.
Shreks melt 85s. Which the soviets have no equivalent.
If you're charging head-on into 85 you just have terrible micro. Learn to flank something with no turret. Or try smoke.
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Shreks melt 85s. Which the soviets have no equivalent.
If you're charging head-on into 85 you just have terrible micro. Learn to flank something with no turret. Or try smoke.
That is true when you hit rear armor. Any other time you're just getting kitted. I think its accuracy or aoe needs to be severely reduced vs infantry.
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Marxist, I'm going to assume your trolling. Do you think he's not going to see your shrecks and backpedal with the line of sight provided by the SU-85? And as for flanking he can just mine lay his flanks with the 100s of munitions Soviets stockpile.
Again, why are you attacking head on? 85 has cone vision with LOS and less accuracy while moving. And no 'get out of jail free smoke card' to play either.
Lack of creativity is your problem, not the 85. Sorry that you can't just spam panthers to win anymore. But maybe try strafing run out? All the cool kids are doing it.
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I wouldn't mind it being so good, if the pak 40 wasn't an expensive, easy to kill not very useful piece of junk. Not only do they get an at crew with 6 men , that takes a long time to kill, they get insanely difficult to take out su 85s.
Shreks own su-85's all day
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