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Omega_Warrior
17 Feb 2016, 20:58 PM
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For anyone who missed or doesn't want to watch the stream here is the breakdown of what we learned:


New Commanders
  • Advanced cover is a 30 sec timed ability, 75muni
  • Infiltration commandos only have 4 men(same stats as normal), no demos
  • Land Mattress is 350mp 40fuel, long innacurate barrage, has 50 muni white phosphorus that kills
  • counter-barrage on base 25pd is toggle-able but disables unit production on the building, limited range, but covers most small maps
  • Improved fortifications, 70 muni upgrade, small arms immunity and health increase
  • Advanced assembly gives gives forward assembly AI sappers that heal both vehicles and buildings


Balance changes
  • Arty cover and concentrated artillery are getting nerfed
  • AEC gun changes reverted, DPS moved to coaxial MG, cost changed 280mp 60fuel (arrives same time as 222)
  • 222 health increase
  • Panzerwerfer damage model reduced
  • Calliope can't be decrewed, fuel cost increased, shoots less rockets
  • base 25pd buffs
  • Maxim nerf(most likely set up time) and penal buffs being tested for next patch
  • Bren carrier no longer has fuel cost
  • Satchel charges bug fix


Link to recording

Full Patchnotes will be released tomorrow

Please tell me is there is anything I missed and I'll add it to the list.
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Gluhoman
17 Feb 2016, 21:16 PM
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vasa1719
17 Feb 2016, 21:17 PM
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Arty nerf cool, aec nerf good (hope its not be useless), but 222 buff ? why ? it was in good place, now its be rekt merice if you go lei, soviet hitpoints, counter with 2 222 t-70 and even su-76 MVGame. If thay dont change price or stats for him.
Nerf maxim, buff penals (will see what it wiil be).
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Doggo
17 Feb 2016, 21:28 PM
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AEC confirmed for uselessness now, but no real compensatory buffs. 25 Pounders still useless. Universal Carrier still useless. call-in Artillery is probably going to be relegated to Churchill levels (that is, useless).

We need to see proper fixes for the British to make them viable now that the AEC is nerfed.
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GhostTX
17 Feb 2016, 21:30 PM
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Nothing done for the shrek blob and they make the Cali more useless? GJ Relic.
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Imagelessbean
17 Feb 2016, 21:30 PM
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Uhhhhhh...did I miss something, is this all there is?
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Omega_Warrior
17 Feb 2016, 21:31 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post17 Feb 2016, 21:28 PMDoggo
AEC confirmed for uselessness now, but no real compensatory buffs. 25 Pounders still useless. Universal Carrier still useless. call-in Artillery is probably going to be relegated to Churchill levels (that is, useless).

We need to see proper fixes for the British to make them viable now that the AEC is nerfed.
Did you read the op? AEC got cheaper and more powerful MGs. If that's not a compensatory buff I don't know what is.

The rest is impossible to determine from a single video. At least wait for the patch to come out before complaining.
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Waegukin
17 Feb 2016, 21:32 PM
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Curious to see the whole set of notes. Hopefully arty cover and concentrate are still useful rather then OP because I'd rather not see Vanguard become the One True Doctrine.
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Omega_Warrior
17 Feb 2016, 21:32 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post17 Feb 2016, 21:30 PMImagelessbean
Uhhhhhh...did I miss something, is this all there is?
Patches are going to be small until ESL is over.
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Mr.Smith
17 Feb 2016, 21:33 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post17 Feb 2016, 21:31 PMOmega_Warrior
Did you read the op? AEC got cheaper and more powerful MGs. If that's not a compensatory buff I don't know what is.

The rest is impossible to determine from a single video. At least wait for the patch to come out before complaining.


You forgot to mention the new price for the AEC; no wonder people are getting salty ;)

I think it's 280 MP now (down from 340). I don't remember the fuel cost though; was it 60? (up from 50).

Finally, the ugly duckling finally received a reasonable MP cost.
You have a great idea that improves the QoL aspects of the game? Please, drop your idea here:
https://www.coh2.org/topic/57860/some-qol-suggestions

Check out Cruzz's DPS calculator:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7gwy65JLbSRMEJ3M2ZPandMMW8/view?usp=sharing
(Download the file, open it with your browser)
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Doggo
17 Feb 2016, 21:33 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post17 Feb 2016, 21:31 PMOmega_Warrior
Did you read the op? AEC got cheaper and more powerful MGs. If that's not a compensatory buff I don't know what is.

The rest is impossible to determine from a single video. At least wait for the patch to come out before complaining.


Its had its changes reverted, that made it a relevant unit; while still locking out the Bofors.
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iTzDusty
17 Feb 2016, 21:35 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post17 Feb 2016, 21:33 PMDoggo


Its had its changes reverted, that made it a relevant unit; while still locking out the Bofors.


And the main gun accuracy didn't get reverted, the splash did.

The coaxial is going to be M20 levels of DPS.

The AEC is going to be cheaper.

Now, with a straight face, keep complaining that its useless.
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Devils_Brigade: man captain molo why dont you just buy and m3 drive that around instead of playing coh
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comm_ash
17 Feb 2016, 21:36 PM
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Guys, we can talk all day, but the fact is that until we see the actual patchnotes, we won't have an accurate vision of the patch.
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Jadame!
17 Feb 2016, 21:36 PM
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They srsly want to nerf maxims? WTF.
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iTzDusty
17 Feb 2016, 21:38 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post17 Feb 2016, 21:36 PMJadame!
They srsly want to nerf maxims? WTF.


Have you not been watching any ESL games....
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Devils_Brigade: man captain molo why dont you just buy and m3 drive that around instead of playing coh
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Jadame!
17 Feb 2016, 21:38 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post17 Feb 2016, 21:38 PMiTzDusty


Have you not been watching any ESL games....



They can buff counters.
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Bananenheld
17 Feb 2016, 21:39 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post17 Feb 2016, 21:17 PMvasa1719
Arty nerf cool, aec nerf good (hope its not be useless), but 222 buff ? why ? it was in good place, now its be rekt merice if you go lei, soviet hitpoints, counter with 2 222 t-70 and even su-76 MVGame. If thay dont change price or stats for him.
Nerf maxim, buff penals (will see what it wiil be).


i doubt he specially mentioned they reverted the 222 main gun buff it had and buffed it coxial mg, something along the line that the coxial mg will be the main damage source for 222. dont know if pre main gun buff can take on t70s and su's
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Doggo
17 Feb 2016, 21:39 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post17 Feb 2016, 21:35 PMiTzDusty


And the main gun accuracy didn't get reverted, the splash did.

The coaxial is going to be M20 levels of DPS.

The AEC is going to be cheaper.

Now, with a straight face, keep complaining that its useless.


It was the splash that let it finish squads off effectively. Unless the Coaxial MGs can do the same, its going to be hard to justify going for it and a lot harder to keep the faction together.
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Multihog
17 Feb 2016, 21:39 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post17 Feb 2016, 21:38 PMJadame!


They can buff counters.

And then the counters become OP against other things and HERE WE GO AGAIN.

Don't you think it's easier to just nerf the source of the problem?
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iTzDusty
17 Feb 2016, 21:40 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post17 Feb 2016, 21:38 PMJadame!


They can buff counters.


Or they can nerf the only MG that is CLEARLY overperforming relative to the others.

Maxims act like a con squad with suppression, its absurd when tournaments are won with 5 maxim builds.
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Devils_Brigade: man captain molo why dont you just buy and m3 drive that around instead of playing coh
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