Increase AEC's price from 50 to 70 fuel

Jump back to quoted post14 Feb 2016, 13:21 PMNEVEC

Relic multiples it aoe 5 times.

Jump back to quoted post14 Feb 2016, 13:59 PMBlackKorp

AEC is just IMBA not even OP, IMBA!!! smashes suqads like nothing, cost nothing and shoots fast as hell..... 4 models at once is np, dealing up to p4 np, puma just dies because its rate of fire and cost twice as much and has only a slow firing gun compaird to the aec.

so dumb, i try to handel this shit with puma but than i am in a massiv leak of fuel and if this pays not directly off you are fucked and can wirte gg

Jump back to quoted post14 Feb 2016, 13:21 PMNEVEC

Relic multiples it aoe 5 times.

Jump back to quoted post14 Feb 2016, 15:45 PMLuckyHammer777

As I said, I think the AEC itself shouldn't be nerfed, but its price should be increased.

British early game is tough and can hardly be agressive, so that faction needs a vehicule to compensate that. But it really need to come at the Stuart ot T70 timer, or maybe a little earlier, but definitely not at the 5 minutes mark.

I agree that OKW can deal with the AEC, but Ostheer can only do the same by rushing the T2 which reduces a lot its field presence, which is already quite weak.

When I play Ostheer in 2v2, AECs are a real pain. Me or my ally are forced to rush AT asap (and when I play with randoms, it is not very simple to agree on a common strategy).
Also, even if I don't play 1v1 very often, the AEC is a wider pain in this mode. The Ostheer player cannot make a single mistake within AEC's efficiency time window or it's a defeat, while the British player can.

It is obvious that the AEC should be nerfed, or something buffed in Ostheer's armory to deal with it with more ease.

Jump back to quoted post13 Feb 2016, 20:00 PMPanzerCommander

OKW is not the only bloody Axis faction. Can people please stop basing balance off of them? AEC wrecks shit with Ost, not with OKW. As far as the medium argument, the AEC has a 75mm gun, which I believe has identical stats to the Cromwell (don't hold me to this, could be wrong) so it's equal to mediums in that respect. Also, if AEC comes out, it can gain map control over Ost, putting them in a rough spot as far as vehicles, or anything for that matter.

Jump back to quoted post13 Feb 2016, 21:08 PMLuckyHammer777

Panzergrenadiers with schreks are quite good against the AEC, but arrive after the pak and cost 120 munitions. To be used as a counter to the AEC they must be rushed, so it means that the Ostheer player will have no LMGs on his grens, which make the fight against tommies really hard ...

Jump back to quoted post14 Feb 2016, 18:06 PMvietnamabc

Just give me something that can counter sniper + Osttruppen horde and you can nerf AEC as much as you like.

Jump back to quoted post15 Feb 2016, 11:42 AMashxu

Go Sniper then? A good tactic is to screen your sniper with Grens and faust the AEC if they give chase. If you nab a hit then get your AT gun in position or get your pgrens up and you will kill the AEC in one salvo on top of the faust.

How is AEC rush any different from rushing a Stuart or M10 besides it comes out faster? for the UKF it's almost guarenteed that they'll get one too unlike USF where they could get either. Also IS suck compared to Rifles



This. You haven't seen an early game crush until you've tried UKF vs Ostruppen.

Jump back to quoted post15 Feb 2016, 05:40 AMthedarkarmadillo

What about just giving it the ptrs treatment? Lower its damage vs infantry but allow it to retain its damage vs infantry. The good AOE would still allow it to support and harass infantry without AT but not model snipe.

Jump back to quoted post15 Feb 2016, 14:01 PMZyllen

WTF? you dont have the mp or time to have a sniper PG's/pak and several grens. wtf is wrong with you? And the problem of the aec is that

1.it has superior AT and AI to the stuart (to the point its a threat to all medium armour)
2.much cheaper then the stuart
3.comes out faster then the stuart
4.comes on a defensive faction and doesnt need something like the AEC.

all in all the aec needs its aoe removed and the infantry sections buffed. Anybody disagreeing is a real idiot in my opinion. That the brits needed to be buffed early game was certain. buffing the AEC was one the stupidest thing relic did since dow 2 1.3 patch.