Ostheer

Hello, I have an idea how to fix most of the ostheers commanders

1) German Infantry doctrine
1CP Arty Field Officer- leave it
4CP Tactical Movement -replace for G43s
5CP Relief Infantry -leave it
6CP Light Artillery Barage -replace with a P4 with a short barrel(its should be good agints inf medium agints light tanks and bad agints tanks)
10CP Fragmentation Bombs-leave it


2) German Mechanized

3CP Motr Grens- replace with Mortar Halftrack
4CP SMOKE-replace with Light Artillery barage
5CP Scope - Leaev it
8CP P4 command tanke - leav it
9CP LEFH -Leave it

3)Blitzkrieg Doctrine

2CP Smoke for tanks-leave it
4CP Tactical Movement - raplace it with a Tiger Tank(13 CPs)
4CP Recon -leave it
9CP P4 command tank-leave it
12CP JU 87-62 Antitank strafe-leave it

4) Festung Armor

2CP Smoke for tanks- leave it
5CP Hull down-leaev it
8CP Pak 43-leave it
9Cp P4 command tank-leaev it
12CP Railway arty- replace it with JU 87 antitank strafe


I hope u like some of the changes that I made and free will to comment about it. Have a nice day.

1.) Ok
2.) No
3.) OP tiger+p4+smoke+ at strafe?
4.) Ok
My opinions so far.

By AT strafe do you mean stuka loiter or just single pass by?

1.) Ok
2.) No
3.) OP tiger+p4+smoke+ at strafe?
4.) Ok
My opinions so far.

By AT strafe do you mean stuka loiter or just single pass by?

I can more or less mirror that. Wehrmacht Mechanized need LeFH changes out of all of it (anything with LeFH really), but its Smoke Bombs are fine and I wouldn't regard 250 Grens as unworkable but it needs a price buff.

I like tactical movement

Yeah, Tiger with smoke under command tank aura, especially -20% received damage, sounds totally balanced in 1v1.

Command P4 + Scopes is quite strong combination already, especially for Stug play.

I think that mechanized, festung and blitzkrieg doctrines are fine, the only one that needs changes is the Infantry doctrine which is imo the worst commander in the whole game

1.) Ok
2.) No
3.) OP tiger+p4+smoke+ at strafe?
4.) Ok
My opinions so far.

By AT strafe do you mean stuka loiter or just single pass by?

Stuka loiter

If you remove tactical movement on infantry doctrine you wont be able to do valiant assaults anymore

If you remove tactical movement on infantry doctrine you wont be able to do valiant assaults anymore

This ability is cheap, but i didnt see anyone use it

I use it a lot

The reason you don't see many people using it a lot is because its in bad doctrines overall.

Jaeger armor is too good to not have equipped, You also should have a MHT doctrine like spearhead.
This allows you to deal with stuff that you don't normally have good counters to.

so that leaves one out. So stuff like german infantry is just bad, You pick it more to troll people with then to actually use. Its alot like royal engineers in that way.

How about stop asking for ostheer buffs? It already shits on the SU and even 1mm of buff would just make the SU UNPLAYABLE.

How about stop asking for ostheer buffs? It already shits on the SU and even 1mm of buff would just make the SU UNPLAYABLE.

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out of the 5 Wehr is in the worst spot, they get rolled by lights too easily. Use your m5 more.
If hes late on his Pak or does not have a proper defense set up, M5 like AEC and end the game right there vs ost.

This ability is cheap, but i didnt see anyone use it

Try to combine it with pzgrenadiers and arty officer skill buff

Smoke Bombs aren't bad. Actually quite like Mechanized. Only ability I don't use is the 250 halftrack.

command p4, at strafe, recon, smoke and tiger? wtf?

I prefer artillery officer, combined with pWerfer, resulting in two consecutive pWerfer strikes for 80 ammo

Additionally, his smoke is useful.

command p4, at strafe, recon, smoke and tiger? wtf?

"Wet dream doctrine"