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Searchlight needs to go

12 Jan 2016, 09:43 AM
#21
avatar of Obersoldat

Posts: 393

OKW needs to go! >:(


Are you suggestion Relic should just remove a faction from the game instead of actually balancing it? Also weird to see in your playercard that you only play OKW. :luvDerp:
12 Jan 2016, 09:47 AM
#22
avatar of Jadame!

Posts: 1122

Searchlight is a joke compared to vet3 sc with scopes. Ez maphack on maps like crossing.
12 Jan 2016, 09:59 AM
#23
avatar of BlackKorp

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Are you suggestion Relic should just remove a faction from the game instead of actually balancing it? Also weird to see in your playercard that you only play OKW. :luvDerp:


i play nerver okw :o
12 Jan 2016, 10:28 AM
#24
avatar of Jewdo

Posts: 271

I hate that thing, combined with indirect fire and a pak43 on certain maps can be a pain in the ass.
12 Jan 2016, 10:29 AM
#25
avatar of Australian Magic

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jump backJump back to quoted post12 Jan 2016, 09:09 AMJohnnyB


This.

Or increase its price, fuelwise.


From this day on, I will celebrate 12.I annually as a day when I and JohnnyB agreed on something :D
12 Jan 2016, 10:33 AM
#26
avatar of Obersoldat

Posts: 393



i play nerver okw :o


http://www.coh2.org/ladders/playercard/steamid/76561197983517643 so someone else played those 368 OKW games? :sibHyena:

On topic: 222 with scopes is way more powerfull in my eyes, since enemy cant see what you see unlike IRHT/Valentine.
12 Jan 2016, 10:42 AM
#27
avatar of Iron Emperor

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http://www.coh2.org/ladders/playercard/steamid/76561197983517643 so someone else played those 368 OKW games? :sibHyena:

On topic: 222 with scopes is way more powerfull in my eyes, since enemy cant see what you see unlike IRHT/Valentine.


Badabim! Spot on Kappa. Also I've to agree with the scopes, vet 3 + scopes = map hack. It's more unfair than the IRHT and Valentine.
12 Jan 2016, 13:11 PM
#28
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From this day on, I will celebrate 12.I annually as a day when I and JohnnyB agreed on something :D


Yeah yeah just make sure not to keep all the beer for yourself. ;)
12 Jan 2016, 13:54 PM
#29
avatar of Jewdo

Posts: 271

jump backJump back to quoted post12 Jan 2016, 13:11 PMJohnnyB


Yeah yeah just make sure not to keep all the beer for yourself. ;)


Incomming fight over who finnished all the beer
12 Jan 2016, 13:56 PM
#30
avatar of Katitof

Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8

jump backJump back to quoted post12 Jan 2016, 13:54 PMJewdo


Incomming fight over who finnished all the beer


Neither, beer OP, finished them both in early game :sibHyena:
12 Jan 2016, 13:57 PM
#31
avatar of luvnest
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Patrion 39

Posts: 1094 | Subs: 20

Also it's bugged and reveals units even outside its area of effect.
12 Jan 2016, 13:57 PM
#32
avatar of Butcher

Posts: 1217

I wouldn´t mind a set up delay for the Uhu. Currently it can get out of trouble easily by simply reversing. It should have a pack up time of 4-5 seconds. This way some counter play could be involved rather than it driving away the moment someone comes close.
12 Jan 2016, 14:10 PM
#33
avatar of Australian Magic

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jump backJump back to quoted post12 Jan 2016, 13:11 PMJohnnyB


Yeah yeah just make sure not to keep all the beer for yourself. ;)


jump backJump back to quoted post12 Jan 2016, 13:54 PMJewdo


Incomming fight over who finnished all the beer


jump backJump back to quoted post12 Jan 2016, 13:56 PMKatitof


Neither, beer OP, finished them both in early game :sibHyena:


Sorry guys, I drink only mead made by myself :romeoPro: ( I mean I make it, not "myself" :luvDerp: )


ON topic. Consatns scan completly prevetns any flanks. A bit OP... Relic, cooldown please.
12 Jan 2016, 14:14 PM
#34
avatar of Mittens
Donator 11

Posts: 1276

Make it an active ability with a 1 min cool down or something. In large team games this unit is cancer as it spots for the LeIg spam and makes flanking damn near impossible.
12 Jan 2016, 14:28 PM
#35
avatar of Kozokus

Posts: 301

Hello.

I am quite surprised to see a balance topic on this unit. I almost never see it. Well yes, it is a spotter, it is his job. And yes it is strong...only with the good setup of barrage units. And yes it is strong, you actually paid for it. Quite normal to have a return.
Lets not forget that OST and UKF also have a long range spotter that can shoot back if you approach too much. Ok, thoses ones can't see through walls. big deal.

Kozo.
12 Jan 2016, 15:55 PM
#36
avatar of whitesky00

Posts: 468



Except the British, they recruited men with X-Ray Vision and put them in Valentine Tanks :sibDZ:


Yes, unfortunately it's doctrinal, costs 8 CP, and loads of fuel. Has the same penetration and slower RoF compared to the AEC. I believe the range for searchlight is much farther as well and can be built in T1 and is non-doctrinal. Great support for indirect fire weapons and possibly spotting ambushes. UKF support weapons are... only mortar pit and suxton can't do crap
12 Jan 2016, 16:01 PM
#37
avatar of AmiPolizeiFunk
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Terrible unit IMO. Requires no micro. Blech.

This game desperately needs scouting units that require talent and cunning to use effectively.
12 Jan 2016, 17:43 PM
#38
avatar of PanzerGeneralForever

Posts: 1072

Bergtiger in vcoh helped me achieve command of 3 tigers once :)
12 Jan 2016, 21:57 PM
#39
avatar of Angry Marine Dave

Posts: 62

The issue I find that you can just put in one spot and spot 1/3 of most maps or more and considering OKW increased munitions means A LOT more cheap mines that can stop a hunting tank or something like that. It's also really cheap.

The main thing is that's really op with AT in matchmaking and I mean top 100 it's a nightmare as it's extremely hard to flank with it constantly spotting.

I do like a cooldown to it as to use it like recon for 20 seconds than wait again.
nee
12 Jan 2016, 22:13 PM
#40
avatar of nee

Posts: 1216

I'd rather not see a non-combat, unarmed unit require so much micromanagement to be useful in the first place.

Obvious fix is to just have the detection not count stealthed units, re snipers. But I can't help but assume Relic is just not capable of delivering such a technical feat as tweaking IR halftrack's beam characteristics.

Oh, and yes of course same should be for Valentine tank's ability.
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