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I need someone to script this for all our sakes

11 Jan 2016, 23:22 PM
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Would it be possible to script an AI for CoH 2 that plays in automatch vs other players? It doesn't have to be good and it could use the game's Hard AI as a basis, but my point is (for the "luls") I'd love to see how far a game spamming AI could make it on the ladder, say as only OKW.

This is only half serious but if it's possible... :snfPeter::snfPeter::snfPeter::snfPeter:
11 Jan 2016, 23:29 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post11 Jan 2016, 23:22 PMSwift
Would it be possible to script an AI for CoH 2 that plays in automatch vs other players? It doesn't have to be good and it could use the game's Hard AI as a basis, but my point is (for the "luls") I'd love to see how far a game spamming AI could make it on the ladder, say as only OKW.

This is only half serious but if it's possible... :snfPeter::snfPeter::snfPeter::snfPeter:


As far as I'm concerned unless you take working coh2 hack as a code base it would be faster to write down your own AI based on the input the player gets than digging in coh2 code trying to make it work.

But ofc there can be a trivial solution for this problem that I didn't come up with.
11 Jan 2016, 23:37 PM
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As far as I'm concerned unless you take working coh2 hack as a code base it would be faster to write down your own AI based on the input the player gets than digging in coh2 code trying to make it work.

But ofc there can be a trivial solution for this problem that I didn't come up with.

Pfft, you think I'm brainy enough to know anything. Please, I'm just a pretty face. It would be hilarious if this is possible.
12 Jan 2016, 05:57 AM
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We could just make a Soviet AI which spams maxims and make it play 4v4 :snfPeter:
12 Jan 2016, 06:44 AM
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It would be interesting, if someone could make a "Deep Blue" for 1vs1 automatches or one "Deep Blue" for every faction in 1vs1, and improve them continually. Just to see how high they could reach on the ladders.

At least the playerbase would be bigger. 5 new competitive players.
12 Jan 2016, 08:13 AM
#6
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It would be interesting, if someone could make a "Deep Blue" for 1vs1 automatches or one "Deep Blue" for every faction in 1vs1, and improve them continually. Just to see how high they could reach on the ladders.

At least the playerbase would be bigger. 5 new competitive players.

Haha, five new players... that aren't even real.

I reckon it could get to the top 200 just by game spamming. What I mean by game spamming is constantly searching 24/7 and playing every game it gets. The best would be if it got casted by someone who didn't know it was a bot.
12 Jan 2016, 09:17 AM
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If is possible, then of course this is possible! :D

Side note, played Brood War 1920x1080, it's incredibly silly, and much easier~
12 Jan 2016, 09:18 AM
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Hard an expert AI are "good" because it cheats in resources, this is not possible in automatch so AI kubelspam will actually be easy to beat even by lowlevel players. I dont think AI will reach top 200.
12 Jan 2016, 09:22 AM
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The idea is you script it to execute moves pulled off by pro players and whilst predictable to a degree, it could probably be programmed to dodge grenades every time, just obviously not mines because it can't see them.
12 Jan 2016, 10:28 AM
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I have a simple solution for you play with friend that picks okw and have him drop in every game..
12 Jan 2016, 10:32 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post12 Jan 2016, 10:28 AMVipper
I have a simple solution for you play with friend that picks okw and have him drop in every game..

But that's not the point of this, I need a self-sufficent AI that can play without being babysat: Itbfinds it's own games, it makes it's own builds, it doesn't need a teammate to carry etc.
12 Jan 2016, 10:37 AM
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Sounds what you want is pretty advanced :p Would be cool indeed to see how far it gets in the leaderboards. Sounds interesting actually, I wonder how you can script your own AI.
12 Jan 2016, 10:39 AM
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My point is that if AI loses in 2vs2 it will also probably lose in 1vs1..
12 Jan 2016, 10:51 AM
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Oh most likely, I am sure it will get mostly losses but if it spams enough games then it might slowly rise to the top. It may have uber micro but it will never be intuitive.
12 Jan 2016, 11:03 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post12 Jan 2016, 10:51 AMSwift
Oh most likely, I am sure it will get mostly losses but if it spams enough games then it might slowly rise to the top. It may have uber micro but it will never be intuitive.

The person who makes this AI (or AIs), should improve the AI continually, so that it becomes better and better. It would be very interesting to see how good this AI can become.
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Rosbone: I am not 100% sure but I think Relic actually fixed up the skirmish menus a little last patch. If so, thank you and keep it coming.
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01 Apr 2025, 02:53 AM
Lady Xenarra: Does anyone else think that USF needs buffs? It feels like they’re on life support sometimes
01 Apr 2025, 02:36 AM
Willy Pete: @Rosbone Ahh I missed that memo. I still think its a bad decision though. Adds frustration for players and isnt gonna make them that much money
27 Mar 2025, 15:46 PM
Rosbone: It is also good they left it free until after the free to play weekend. Points for that.
27 Mar 2025, 09:34 AM
Rosbone: But I agree, the cost to get a full decent Coh game pushing $115 US is not the best idea. Especially when it needs so much more work for casuals.
27 Mar 2025, 09:32 AM
Rosbone: To be fair, it was a thank you to early fans right? They said it was not free for long and it would become a pay DLC at some point.
27 Mar 2025, 09:30 AM
Willy Pete: Re-releasing free DLC so they can charge new players money for it. Brilliant marketing strategy :clap:
27 Mar 2025, 04:31 AM
Soheil: Coh2 still broken server ?
25 Mar 2025, 18:27 PM
Rosbone: Congrats to Relic. Looks like Coh3 has finally usurped Coh2 s the popular Coh. You smell terrific. :snfQuinn:.
24 Mar 2025, 02:46 AM
Nickbn: and again someone else replies. I mean come on guys. Give @adamírcz a chance
22 Mar 2025, 14:00 PM
Willy Pete: @Nickbn you didn't ask a question, and this is a chat box...
20 Mar 2025, 13:11 PM
Nickbn: @Rosbone it's incredibly rude to speak on someone elses behalf, especially when a question is directly adressed to them. I understand your passion for the subject at hand but I want to hear from him.
20 Mar 2025, 10:16 AM
Rosbone: @Nickbn No, I am just saying people should not be using any Relic owned forum since they have proven they ban anyone who says true things about Coh3.
18 Mar 2025, 19:01 PM
Nickbn: @Rosbone do you speak on his behalf? I didn't know. In that case keep us updated please.
18 Mar 2025, 16:47 PM
Rosbone: #RelicModdedEchoChamber
16 Mar 2025, 17:54 PM
Rosbone: @Nickbn True except, the only people on the Relic Discord/Reddit/Steam are brain washed monkey zealots. They wont even understand what @adamírcz is talking about. Anyone else is banned.
16 Mar 2025, 17:54 PM
Nickbn: @adamírcz might be a better idea to voice this to relic directly than to voice it here, in a shoutbox of a nearly deade fansite #justsaying...
16 Mar 2025, 16:36 PM
webdesign-muenchen-w: @Rosbone it is sick
14 Mar 2025, 22:09 PM
aerafield: @adamírcz aren't the first two disconnects free every day?
14 Mar 2025, 19:26 PM
Rosbone: It is so unlike Relic to punish its fans and community.
14 Mar 2025, 12:07 PM
adamírcz: So, I just got a leaver penalty without even getting onto the loading screen because of the game disconnecting, bravo Relic
14 Mar 2025, 10:45 AM
Rosbone: It is an indicator of the very short sighted capitalist view that plagues any company where leadership does not understand the product.
13 Mar 2025, 20:00 PM
Rosbone: They dont care about Coh3 or Coh in general. They are just trying to grab cash by ripping off the small user base they have.
13 Mar 2025, 19:58 PM
Rosbone: Just making mistake after mistake after mistake.
13 Mar 2025, 19:57 PM
Rosbone: It is clear they crapped out an unfinished game. And are now barely supporting it as they make new smaller games. Coh3 is stillborn. It will be meh for at least another 2-4 years. Meaning they killed the whole franchise instead of growing it.
13 Mar 2025, 19:56 PM
Rosbone: For a thing they could fix in minutes. Literally minutes.
13 Mar 2025, 19:53 PM
Rosbone: If I did play coh3 and was mainly a skirmish player, I would be pissed and probably stop playing. And it has been like this since release. Why? I would not tell my friends to buy a game I am not even playing. Lost sales and angered users.
13 Mar 2025, 19:53 PM
Rosbone: I am just saddened how Relic keeps hurting themselves by not fixing 5 minute things like menus. Why anger users with stuff that could be fixed in minutes???
13 Mar 2025, 19:50 PM
Rosbone: I was wondering why people think I was raging. I think it was when I said "because coh3 sucks so bad". That was not my opinion. Just a general feel from top players/streamers. I dont play Coh3 and have NO opinion of it.
13 Mar 2025, 19:48 PM
OKSpitfire: You can rage as often as you like btw, you usually manage to make it pretty funny.
12 Mar 2025, 11:18 AM
Rosbone: So it was a systemic failure across multiple disciplines and check points.
12 Mar 2025, 04:30 AM
Rosbone: Knowing how companies work, I imagine a new hire making the menus. The API they are using is complicated and things were hard to figure out. But at some point QA or management should have addressed these things. Usually within 6 months of starting.
12 Mar 2025, 04:29 AM
Rosbone: @theekvn I dont hate Coh3 or Relic. I just dont understand how you work on Coh3 for like 7 years and the menu system is worse than if a Programming 101 student made it. Feel free to explain it to me.
12 Mar 2025, 04:07 AM
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12 Mar 2025, 04:00 AM
theekvn: KT just need fuel debuf from 15% to 50%, Ele arc of fire- aim time improve and they are good to go
12 Mar 2025, 03:59 AM
theekvn: and please Rosbone,I know you hate Coh3 to the bone due to your drama with relic, Still, Can you give a proper point of view instead of raging ?.
12 Mar 2025, 03:54 AM
theekvn: you rather go 76 to unity Whizbang 2.0 or go home.
12 Mar 2025, 03:52 AM
theekvn: also US tier 4 is 145f and Sherman pen 140 nerf is too much.
12 Mar 2025, 03:52 AM
theekvn: Whizbang lock behind CP, meanwhile stuka is techtree progress
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KoRneY: @aerafield It's possible that it is underpriced for what it is capable of now, no need to go full retard and take it immediately as a massive problem. It costs 60 more MP than a pz.3 and in 2v2 the barrage can be quite strong.
07 Mar 2025, 19:14 PM
OKSpitfire: I do like that they made the Stuka more expensive instead of nerfing it into the ground though. Found it pretty unsatisfying to use before that buff a while back....
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aerafield: USF already is by far the shittiest faction in terms of countering blobbing and turtling, now they supposedly have one overtuned tool locked behind a BG and it's immediately a massive problem?
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Lady Xenarra: I think post-2.0 Whizbang buffs, the price is too low esp since the Stuka got nerfed in cost too. Speaking of which, how exactly is one supposed to successfully dive this Sherman in disguise? Med tank spam running into SSFs?
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OKSpitfire: A powerful, doctrinal unit that outperforms stock stuff? Colour me shocked! :P
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Willy Pete: Cool you wanna lose your stock lategame arty too then?
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Lady Xenarra: WTB Whizzbang for DAK instead of Stuka, 5 fuel cheape, 60MP more expensive and next to impossible to dive. :rofl:
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