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7 Jan 2016, 06:56 AM
#1
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7 Jan 2016, 08:19 AM
#2
avatar of Waegukin

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Considering their track record, I'm waiting for the next patchnotes to nerf it.
7 Jan 2016, 08:23 AM
#3
avatar of Katitof

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Considering their track record, I'm waiting for the next patchnotes to nerf it.

It actually already got at the very least 2 nerfs since alpha until today.

AEC just being AEC.

7 Jan 2016, 09:04 AM
#4
avatar of Stafkeh
Patrion 14

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I wonder why that Noun face has never been an emote here on coh2.org :snfCHVGame:

Sometimes AEC performs very well, sometimes its shit. Highly depends on RNG for sniping units. I like to make it, but it can be risky.
7 Jan 2016, 09:05 AM
#5
avatar of dasheepeh

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rip cynthia
7 Jan 2016, 09:15 AM
#6
avatar of NEVEC

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Lackluster for 440 manpwer and 65 fuel price (considering research).

Research should cost 50 mp and 5 fuel and vet 1 ability bug should be fixed because it's not working currently, aec just takes forever to aim and after shot nothing happends.
7 Jan 2016, 19:46 PM
#7
avatar of Nabarxos

Posts: 392

jump backJump back to quoted post7 Jan 2016, 06:56 AMpugzii
relic plz


Why should Relic listen to a Bolton ??

"Joking"

I believe the Aec could use More HP and maybe a little bit AI since it costs that much.

A turret rotation speed buff could also do the trick
7 Jan 2016, 19:50 PM
#8
avatar of edibleshrapnel

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jump backJump back to quoted post7 Jan 2016, 09:15 AMNEVEC
Lackluster for 440 manpwer and 65 fuel price (considering research).

Research should cost 50 mp and 5 fuel and vet 1 ability bug should be fixed because it's not working currently, aec just takes forever to aim and after shot nothing happends.


Christ, I thought it was just me, that ability is such shit. And the one time I actually sacrificed time to shoot at a panther, it just disabled the turret for a couple seconds, and then my AEC got destroyed. RELIC PLZ.
7 Jan 2016, 19:55 PM
#9
avatar of Imagelessbean

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Also don't forget the slow mind control smoke.

"Yeah give it German smoke, but make it trigger slower, so it is less good." "Great call it a day."
8 Jan 2016, 00:56 AM
#10
avatar of DakkaIsMagic

Posts: 403

The Val tank in the Arty commander has more AT power than this thing.

And armor, but they share the Zero Ai firepower.
8 Jan 2016, 01:14 AM
#11
avatar of tenid

Posts: 232

The Val tank in the Arty commander has more AT power than this thing.

And armor, but they share the Zero Ai firepower.


The Valentine's gun is significantly worse than the AEC.

The first thing I'd change with the AEC is to fix the vet 1 ability so it actually worked reliably. I'd also change the tread destroyed critical to needs repairs rather than magically fixes itself. For those who don't know what the ability does, it will fire two shots at the target. 1 shot landing gives a temporary snare for 8 seconds, both shots landing gives a 22-25 second snare. The shots will miss quite a bit.
8 Jan 2016, 01:49 AM
#12
avatar of DakkaIsMagic

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jump backJump back to quoted post8 Jan 2016, 01:14 AMtenid


The Valentine's gun is significantly worse than the AEC.
.


Do you know this or just saying from one game you saw?
8 Jan 2016, 02:23 AM
#13
avatar of Firesparks

Posts: 1930



Do you know this or just saying from one game you saw?


aec deal 120 damage per shot

valentine deal 80 damage per shot, and fire significantly slower.

Valentine do have better AOE, but it's still pretty bad
8 Jan 2016, 02:41 AM
#14
avatar of Rollo

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jump backJump back to quoted post7 Jan 2016, 06:56 AMpugzii
relic plz



cynthia is such a qt3.14 :wub:
8 Jan 2016, 03:09 AM
#15
avatar of Mittens
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Posts: 1276

Its moving accuracy is trash lol
8 Jan 2016, 03:23 AM
#16
avatar of United

Posts: 253

My personal theory is that the AEC isnt even that bad, its just almost every unit OKW builds has At, making the AEC (and the bren carrier) ultimately a useless balloon waiting to pop.
8 Jan 2016, 03:29 AM
#17
avatar of Spinflight

Posts: 680

Seems to turn slower than the Titanic too.

Being outmanouvred by an 8 wheeled Puma seems a bit odd. The AEC looks nimble, but it isn't. Didn't they have a secondary Bren in real life?
8 Jan 2016, 11:31 AM
#18
avatar of tenid

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Do you know this or just saying from one game you saw?


Obviously not - nobody ever builds the Valentine.

Stats are here if you want them:
http://stat.coh2.hu/weapon.php?filename=aec_75mm_ap_mp
http://stat.coh2.hu/weapon.php?filename=valentine_75mm_mp

As Firesparks mentioned, the valentine has a lower damage per shot, longer reload time and they share range and penetration.
8 Jan 2016, 11:34 AM
#19
avatar of Katitof

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Well, Valentine have map hack and infantry crush so... its not that bad. Its also slightly more durable(doesn't get engine crit from single faust).

It might be worse AT wise, but is much better vehicle in general.
8 Jan 2016, 18:25 PM
#20
avatar of DakkaIsMagic

Posts: 403

jump backJump back to quoted post8 Jan 2016, 11:31 AMtenid


Obviously not - nobody ever builds the Valentine.

Stats are here if you want them:
http://stat.coh2.hu/weapon.php?filename=aec_75mm_ap_mp
http://stat.coh2.hu/weapon.php?filename=valentine_75mm_mp

As Firesparks mentioned, the valentine has a lower damage per shot, longer reload time and they share range and penetration.


I retract my prev statement then.
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