I think fast luchs is fine, now allies have to build something to counter an early axis shock unit
if people think stuarts and t70 were fast, wait until they see a 4 minutes luchs
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18 Nov 2015, 21:35 PM
#101
Posts: 1930
if people think stuarts and t70 were fast, wait until they see a 4 minutes luchs
18 Nov 2015, 21:35 PM
#102
Posts: 344
The reason OKW is such a awkward faction is they have access to the most powerful AT weapon in the game on the cheapest infantry... Dont RELIC realize this?? RELIC PLS!
They do.
OKW Revamp
Resource income increased to 100%
Panzershreck
Cost reduced from 90 to 70
18 Nov 2015, 21:36 PM
#103
Posts: 40
I like the changes but they should introduced a new ability for OKW lets name it Wepon supply ( i know the name sucks) for 150 manpower and 20 fuel it would give Volks acces to panzerfaust and in incendiary granade. Panzershrecks should be moved to sturmpios.
HR
18 Nov 2015, 21:37 PM
#104
Posts: 1891
A Golden Era of COH2 is dawning
The Fascisti Will Pay.
18 Nov 2015, 21:38 PM
#105
Posts: 1593 | Subs: 1
but vet 3 allied infantry roll over everything...or so thats what the forums make me believe eleniggle
make 1 rifle/tommie for every volks he has, spend the same amount of amunition per squad (90) and watch which blob will win (and yes rifles are 45 manpower more expensive, so just assume its 4 rifles against 5 volks to even it out)
18 Nov 2015, 21:39 PM
#106
Posts: 1384
Did some testing with the preview mod.
I managed to get a luchs in 4 minutes and 30 seconds, I could have gotten it faster if I didn't upgrade thorough salvage.
My methodology:
2 kubelwagon start.
Cap with kubels and sturmpio until face resistance (5 strat poitns + fuel point usually)
Call in truck after second kubel
Immediately upgrade mechanized command with truck when it gets on map
Build volksgrenadier.
Build a mine or two in base, place kubels ontop of mine.
Grenade with volks.
Salvage both kubels.
Build luchs.
I also had a panzer iv by around 11 minutes, and if I actually wanted to I could cut that down to less than 10 minutes using the luchs to cap more territory.
EDIT:
Did a more efficient run. Managed to have the Luchs on the field a 4 minutes and 24 seconds.
Here's the replay for those of you with the patch preview downloaded.
To put this in perspective guys, this is about as fast as you can get a flame engineer in a scout car as Soviets.
I managed to get a luchs in 4 minutes and 30 seconds, I could have gotten it faster if I didn't upgrade thorough salvage.
My methodology:
2 kubelwagon start.
Cap with kubels and sturmpio until face resistance (5 strat poitns + fuel point usually)
Call in truck after second kubel
Immediately upgrade mechanized command with truck when it gets on map
Build volksgrenadier.
Build a mine or two in base, place kubels ontop of mine.
Grenade with volks.
Salvage both kubels.
Build luchs.
I also had a panzer iv by around 11 minutes, and if I actually wanted to I could cut that down to less than 10 minutes using the luchs to cap more territory.
EDIT:
Did a more efficient run. Managed to have the Luchs on the field a 4 minutes and 24 seconds.
Here's the replay for those of you with the patch preview downloaded.
To put this in perspective guys, this is about as fast as you can get a flame engineer in a scout car as Soviets.
18 Nov 2015, 21:39 PM
#107
Posts: 232
So if they're removing the OKW fuel penalty, are they going to make the flak HQ any easier to kill? After all they won't need such a potent method to hold territory.
Can't say I like the brit changes, especially the sniper change. If an anti-vehicle sniper is rubbish against light vehicles what use is he? Nerfs all round and nary a buff to any of the weak or underused stuff. The valentine at 6cp will likely still be a joke.
Can't say I like the brit changes, especially the sniper change. If an anti-vehicle sniper is rubbish against light vehicles what use is he? Nerfs all round and nary a buff to any of the weak or underused stuff. The valentine at 6cp will likely still be a joke.
18 Nov 2015, 21:40 PM
#108
Posts: 985 | Subs: 2
Failed to write in notes:
Redistribute Resources replaced by Supply Drop Zone
Close Air Support Doctrine, Ostruppen Doctrine
Removing this ability that allows players to manipulate their resource with no counter play involved
- Replaced with Supply Drop Zone
Redistribute Resources replaced by Supply Drop Zone
18 Nov 2015, 21:40 PM
#109
Posts: 556
Ding Dong the OpKW of old is dead.
18 Nov 2015, 21:42 PM
#110
3 
Posts: 658
Did some testing with the preview mod.
I managed to get a luchs in 4 minutes and 30 seconds, I could have gotten it faster if I didn't upgrade thorough salvage.
My methodology:
2 kubelwagon start.
Cap with kubels and sturmpio until face resistance (5 strat poitns + fuel point usually)
Call in truck after second kubel
Immediately upgrade mechanized command with truck when it gets on map
Build volksgrenadier.
Build a mine or two in base, place kubels ontop of mine.
Grenade with volks.
Salvage both kubels.
Build luchs.
I also had a panzer iv by around 11 minutes, and if I actually wanted to I could cut that down to less than 10 minutes using the luchs to cap more territory.
If you manage to win against a decent ~ human ~ opponent with this build, pls post a replay
18 Nov 2015, 21:45 PM
#111
Posts: 113
I like the changes but they should introduced a new ability for OKW lets name it Wepon supply ( i know the name sucks) for 150 manpower and 20 fuel it would give Volks acces to panzerfaust and in incendiary granade. Panzershrecks should be moved to sturmpios.
I like this idea.
Volks lining up for Blobberino antics like
18 Nov 2015, 21:46 PM
#112
Posts: 1705
The OKW teching is over the top.Needs to be addressed immediately.
With 300 mp shrecks should be moved to sturmpio.Give volks faust/or lategame modest AI upgrade instead.
With 300 mp shrecks should be moved to sturmpio.Give volks faust/or lategame modest AI upgrade instead.
18 Nov 2015, 21:47 PM
#113
Posts: 380
AND HERE COMES THE BLOBBERINO OF VOLKS, also they didn't nerf Leig and pack howie, it's still cheesy. Otherwise, good changes.
18 Nov 2015, 21:49 PM
#114
3 
Posts: 587
Now that Kubel lost its suppression, does it get veterancy faster since it lands more hits, and if you manage to get the Königskubel (VET 5), does it still have its suppression bonus?
18 Nov 2015, 21:49 PM
#115
Posts: 1273
If you manage to win against a decent ~ human ~ opponent with this build, pls post a replay
Playing a 2on2, and you can apply the very same tactic with a fuel cache building OST player to get a Luchs by minute 03:20.
18 Nov 2015, 21:53 PM
#116
7 
Posts: 1664
All of these changes, small tweaks, radical game-changers and... we.. STILL don't get any love for the Penal Battalion. It's like Relic actively hates them 
18 Nov 2015, 21:53 PM
#117
Posts: 46
No buyable Vet anymore... OKW overhaul... AM I DREAMING??
I hope we are not dreaming, for I don´t want to wake up anymore if that´s the case. The patch looks soooooooo promising. Thank you very much Relic!
18 Nov 2015, 21:53 PM
#118
Posts: 985 | Subs: 2
Any changes to the Pershing?
18 Nov 2015, 21:54 PM
#119
Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8
This looks gooood, need to check OKW, I'm concerned that they still have fastest teching and vet5 should be scraped with the new changes to resources.
Rest of the changes look really good, changing commanders gives me hope for other ost and sov commanders.
Rest of the changes look really good, changing commanders gives me hope for other ost and sov commanders.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
18 Nov 2015, 21:56 PM
#120
Posts: 1705
This looks gooood, need to check OKW, I'm concerned that they still have fastest teching and vet5 should be scraped with the new changes to resources.
Rest of the changes look really good, changing commanders gives me hope for other ost and sov commanders.
For once we are in agreement.
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