Balance Preview Patchnotes

Jump back to quoted post25 Nov 2015, 11:09 AM$nuffy

Crocs AT is Joke ? I once had a frontal slugging match up close with the KT VS the croc, KT won with 1/5 health left ... The brit guy didn't reverse 'cause it really looked like at one point that the Croc is goin' to win. Not to mention that the Croc rolled over Pak, raketen, some grens and my shreck "blob" of 2 Volks, burned a few bunkers etc. before I drove my fresh KT to save the collapse, only to find out that the thing isn't much afraid of the KT as well. One really must wonder why it's getting nerf after nerf.

Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.

Jump back to quoted post25 Nov 2015, 11:09 AMAchtAchter

I encourage you to play the preview patch, to call Sturm pioneers superior when they only win against sections or riflemen when they catch them out of position is far fetched.
With the recent changes, Volks still lose to sections and Riflemen by a good margin, they are just not so hopeless anymore. I was restraining myself from posting here, because I actually want to play the preview before writing with all the theorycrafters here.
I would like if relic implements side upgrades for OKW, like AI upgrades for volks (of course removing the schreck beforehand).


If you'd play the preview you'd notice the Kübel is not a fighting squad at all any longer, so investing into it early game will basically make you lack in 2 volks, while the enemy gets two rifles or sections. That's what they mean by outproducing, since the Kübel can be scared off by any infantry squad in this game, unless you put them in red cover for some reason.


About the croc:

Seems kinda overnerf at the moment, reduced range, vastly increased price. 200 or 210 fuel sounds more fair imo.

Jump back to quoted post25 Nov 2015, 11:09 AM$nuffy

Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts. Thank God there's statistics, and Relic is actually doing something about it. Love the december patch. By trying it, I felt like I was playing with the 50kg of cement on my back for the past 2 years

Jump back to quoted post25 Nov 2015, 09:54 AMatouba

But churchill AVRE still cost 560 mp 140 fuel?

Jump back to quoted post25 Nov 2015, 10:44 AMKatitof

True, but its still something compared to OKW, which gets the same thing for, well, free, because no other reason then being OKW.

OKW still have cheapest teching, some of the most powerful units, best scaling, free benefits with tech and no disadvantage on the preview as new volks now cover much better the only okw disadvantage-weak early game AI.

I don't think they need even more bonuses and free stuff when we have resource handicapped faction like UKF that can't even get proper map control early game. At least USF covers for rifle cost with officer unit during tech, but as you've said, they still have hefty side costs to pay.

Jump back to quoted post25 Nov 2015, 11:09 AMAchtAchter

I encourage you to play the preview patch, to call Sturm pioneers superior when they only win against sections or riflemen when they catch them out of position is far fetched.
With the recent changes, Volks still lose to sections and Riflemen by a good margin, they are just not so hopeless anymore. I was restraining myself from posting here, because I actually want to play the preview before writing with all the theorycrafters here.
I would like if relic implements side upgrades for OKW, like AI upgrades for volks (of course removing the schreck beforehand).


If you'd play the preview you'd notice the Kübel is not a fighting squad at all any longer, so investing into it early game will basically make you lack in 2 volks, while the enemy gets two rifles or sections. That's what they mean by outproducing, since the Kübel can be scared off by any infantry squad in this game, unless you put them in red cover for some reason.

Jump back to quoted post25 Nov 2015, 12:39 PM__deleted__

because axis havent cry hard.


like rly guys ?
okw start wih best infantry and same MP?
churchill cost as tiger and it splash warm bathwater at range 25 , its slow weak to anything except infantry and now this cost ?

Jump back to quoted post25 Nov 2015, 11:09 AM$nuffy

Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.

Jump back to quoted post25 Nov 2015, 15:39 PMTAKTCOM

So that's why when British army release match show 85% ally and 15% axis.

Jump back to quoted post25 Nov 2015, 15:44 PMKatitof

Manly stand up against the fate when brits used 325 muni off-map increased worlds oceans water level by about 2 meters and salt levels by about 20%.

Jump back to quoted post25 Nov 2015, 15:44 PMKatitof

We can also pretend we didn't seen all of these churchill and centaur threads.

Surely all these axis players took it like real men when BARs got minor buff for accuracy on the move.

Manly stand up against the fate when brits used 325 muni off-map increased worlds oceans water level by about 2 meters and salt levels by about 20%.