And doesn't give you anything else then the ability to use rifle at nade as opposed to ost one getting you to vet3.
Which therefore costs fuel and delays tech for example
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And doesn't give you anything else then the ability to use rifle at nade as opposed to ost one getting you to vet3.
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5 man grens and pgrens will need a dps nerf. Ost already have some of the best infantry in the game
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And doesn't give you anything else then the ability to use rifle at nade as opposed to ost one getting you to vet3.
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since i don't own the commander i don't know exactly how it works, but doesn't it get grens only to vet2? i'd have to look it up again, but i thought it gives a set amount of XP, which gets different units to different veterancy levels.
still: both commanders are utterly broken and don't belong in the game.
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I don't see the problem with Panzergrens, they feel just right imo.
G43's could use a buff, that's about it.
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G43 are fine on Grens. They needs a different role on PGs.
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I'm in favour of giving PG's a single Jäger G43 instead. Grenadier version is indeed fine as-is.
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Grens getting 3 vet pzgrens 2 vet. Imo no buffs for both squds needed. Grens are fine inf killers they are supposed to be glasscanon, they aren't meatsield. Pzgrens fine elite inf squad. Just stop crying guys.
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grens are useless late game. mgs are useless late game. ostwinds/p4s get countered by every medium tank or a single AT gun. there is no way for ostheer to handle a late game blob with veterancy.
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Inb4
"Mines and flank!"
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They don't need a fifth man. That said, I think their veterancy bonuses should be on-par with Allied infantry units. Riflemen have much better bonuses right now, and I'm not sure that should be the case.
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all German infantry bonus need to be look at. right now allied infantry vet bonus is so strong the late game blob is almost unstoppable, HMG crew died so fast without doing much suppression. also i think allied rifle man need smoke nade removed, late game rifle blob with their smoke and bazooka, i find it really hard to defend against it.
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Grenadiers already get huge vet2 and vet3 bonusses. They are not very durable but if you keep them healed and retreat soon enough with secured retreat path ...
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Which means they cannot stay in the fight and give ground EARLIER or GET WIPED. Either way they are more ineffective. Thanks for making our point....
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Axis have slightly weaker infantry.But the Allies (Brits excepted) also tend to have numerical superiority, especially relative to the Wehrmacht.
Allies have slightly weaker vehicles.
Whoa.
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