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AEC Armored Car

6 Oct 2015, 23:38 PM
#61
avatar of Firesparks

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UC is trash past T1 and even then it isnt very good, they should give the AEC an 70 muni vickers on top or something AI related, make brits pay for it but make it atleast viable.


UC being crappy is its own issue. The fact that the UC become obsolete the moment the british can actually repair it is a problem.
7 Oct 2015, 00:42 AM
#62
avatar of Otherside

Posts: 32



UC being crappy is its own issue. The fact that the UC become obsolete the moment the british can actually repair it is a problem.


but even the UC being better still wouldnt make the AEC good, its good on paper but vs what your facing as brits at the time its never gonna be useful
7 Oct 2015, 03:56 AM
#63
avatar of Firesparks

Posts: 1930



but even the UC being better still wouldnt make the AEC good, its good on paper but vs what your facing as brits at the time its never gonna be useful


the AEC is what the brits should be using against an early light vehicle or tank.

The british doesn't have any tank snare and their PIAT have difficulty hitting moving vehicles, so logically the AEC is there to cover up the particular weakness.
7 Oct 2015, 06:30 AM
#64
avatar of Muxsus

Posts: 170



the AEC is what the brits should be using against an early light vehicle or tank.

The british doesn't have any tank snare and their PIAT have difficulty hitting moving vehicles, so logically the AEC is there to cover up the particular weakness.


True, but a 6pounder is probably better against most light vehicles (excluding flamer 251 and luchs). This is the problem of the AEC, it's kinda like Penals in the way that its role can be performed by another unit that's better at it.

Also for people who don't know what the AEC's cost is:
100 (tech) + 340 = 440 MP.
15 (tech) + 50 = 65 FU
OKW Puma costs 320 MP and 70 FU (pretty sure the ost one has the same cost)
And Alex logic can't work here, the tech only unlocks the AEC, so it absolutely is included in the cost.
7 Oct 2015, 09:33 AM
#65
avatar of vietnamabc

Posts: 1063

Give AEC an MG upgrade so that it will be like the old Staghound (without the bug ofc).
7 Oct 2015, 09:46 AM
#66
avatar of Koby

Posts: 3

I'd reduce its manpower cost and change its vet to a medium tank vehicle snare, similar to target weak point. Would make it more desirable and would help it scale and maintain use ability. But either way I like it for taking down flametraks. Prevalence of so much fire means at guns are suffering.
7 Oct 2015, 13:51 PM
#67
avatar of Firesparks

Posts: 1930

jump backJump back to quoted post7 Oct 2015, 06:30 AMMuxsus


True, but a 6pounder is probably better against most light vehicles (excluding flamer 251 and luchs). This is the problem of the AEC, it's kinda like Penals in the way that its role can be performed by another unit that's better at it.


the problem with 6 pdr is the early brits have no flank protection. The USF and the OKW have heat seeking missile, and the sov and ost have tank snare. There needs to be something behind the atg capable of stopping light vehicle.
7 Oct 2015, 14:09 PM
#68
avatar of Bananenheld

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the problem with 6 pdr is the early brits have no flank protection. The USF and the OKW have heat seeking missile, and the sov and ost have tank snare. There needs to be something behind the atg capable of stopping light vehicle.

does the unique +50% acc. affect moving vehicles too? thats a good deal for no flanking protection against fast light vehicles
7 Oct 2015, 16:53 PM
#69
avatar of Firesparks

Posts: 1930


does the unique +50% acc. affect moving vehicles too? thats a good deal for no flanking protection against fast light vehicles
the increased accuracy doesn't really help against vehicle that got around the back.
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7 Oct 2015, 17:20 PM
#70
avatar of nee

Posts: 1216

Question like this demands an examination (or discussion) of what the AEC is for, and what it actually does in the game. If no one can agree on what this unit does in reality, then no one can really agree on what are suitable changes to this vehicle.
7 Oct 2015, 17:38 PM
#71
avatar of TaurusBully

Posts: 89

222 is not a problem, Luchs and FlameHT yes (they can flank the 6pdr), but by the time a Luchs hits the field i think an AEC is more than good enough.

I think you can get an AEC even b4 the 120muni for the flame HT.

By the way, can,t 2 AECs beat a PZ4?

Anyways, IMO its MP cost should go down, as UK suffers from MP.
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