Overall Balance

Jump back to quoted post22 Sep 2015, 17:39 PMColdtanks

(...) brits are clearly winning 1v1 games.

Jump back to quoted post22 Sep 2015, 17:39 PMColdtanks

(...) sprice playing like a bit of a fool almost won a game just playing dreadful

Jump back to quoted post22 Sep 2015, 18:01 PMGinnungagap

and cheap to a lot of observers, but he is an excellent player and played really well in the mentioned tourney.

Jump back to quoted post22 Sep 2015, 17:39 PMColdtanks

Now that the brits stats are out, only recent but you can still use other methods to see their performance the last few weeks, it is a bit easier to see overall balance. Balance topics are often very subjective but stats while they do have their flaws can also be useful tools.

Both axis factions currently have lower win ratios than all 3 allied factions in all brackets. They even have lower win ratios than the Brits in 1v1. At first I thought this was weird considering the amount of crying about Brits in 1v1, but then watching streamers and looking at the ladders, its clear they are not actually doing that bad. Often hearing 'unplayable' but then thats kind of stupid when brits are clearly winning 1v1 games.

I mean all this crying about the Brits and Leigs, but OKW have almost always been the weakest faction in 1v1 but were strong in team games, but even in team games they get torn apart.

There are still endless axis OP threads, but if they are so OP why do allies have better win ratios across the board?

Also even look at OCF, multiple 2:1 wins where the only wins were when the players were playing allies, I mean even sprice playing like a bit of a fool almost won a game just playing dreadful and blobbing and spamming and pretty much played like such a fool he lost himself the game (arty on his own troops).

I generally play all factions but the leaderboards, the statistics and even OCF show axis suffering and yet the forums still want axis nerfed and allies buffed, I don't get it.

Jump back to quoted post23 Sep 2015, 00:07 AMCarlos Danger

OKW has major faction-design problems. Not going to comment on them.

Ostheer's in a bad place right now because they're forced to play defensively against Soviet and US light vehicles until they get T3 out. Only then are you on equal footing with the Allied factions.

Jump back to quoted post23 Sep 2015, 00:11 AMRobbie_Rotten

I'm pretty sure Sprice doesn't abuse.

If the USF pop cap thing was abusive then relic would have fixed it by now. But I always here that they confirmed it was intended...

Jump back to quoted post23 Sep 2015, 00:18 AMMr. Someguy

If it was intended, then US Tanks would have 4 popcap and USF would have no limit. But it's something that exploits unintended game mechanics to get you free resources from nothing. It's abuse.

Jump back to quoted post22 Sep 2015, 22:38 PMBeefSurge

Average effectiveness in all game modes, best to worst.

Ostheer
Soviets
OKW
USF
Brits

Jump back to quoted post23 Sep 2015, 00:28 AMaaa

i reaally think they must forbid questioning balance Whatsosever. Cuz its 90% of the time its just a noob whine (or relative to better players whine) and not a balance issue at all.
So all 4 factions are equal overall. And questioning that is not allowed.

Jump back to quoted post23 Sep 2015, 00:11 AMRobbie_Rotten

I'm pretty sure Sprice doesn't abuse.

If the USF pop cap thing was abusive then relic would have fixed it by now. But I always here that they confirmed it was intended...

On a side note, after this "hot"fix comes "soon" I suspect balance will be in one of the better states it has been in.

OpieOP

hardcounter OH T3

Jump back to quoted post23 Sep 2015, 01:06 AMAlexzandvar

This isn't calling him a bad player, rather, just kinda a dick sometimes.