Patch Preview: Normal Volks Grenade gone

Just make it an upgrade

It didn't broke anything for PE in coh1, it won't break anything in coh2.
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I don't know. I think PE always had less appeal as it lacked that general feeling of being representavive of a broader force of WW2. It felt like only 1 particular unit, like an army too specialized to have that kind of representative power. The absence of normal grenades and standard uniforms, from my point of view, actually did make PE less interesting from a design perspective. Also, wasn't Wehr being played more than PE?

Aside from that, I agree with the people who stated that the Incendiary Grenade suits Sturmpios better because they seem like specialists who would field such special equipment.
As far as I know the german army of ww2 did not issue incendiary grenades to regular soldiers across a broader front. On the other hand, the normal 'Stiehlhandgrenade' was quite common. So it remains a big immersion breaker for me.

If we are going to go by this logic than cons should dp28 upgrades and obers shouldn't exist let alone have stg44 upgrade. Video games are not here for authenticity especially coh2

Well, I wouldn't mind Cons having normal grenades, for starters.
While it is true that a game like CoH 2 is not suppossed to be 100% authentic, it is important that it evokes that general, slightly cinematic ww2 feel. Many people are attracted to the franchise because of the setting. The normal german 'Stielhandgrenade' is an iconic item of ww2 that will recognized by many. It is a thing typical of the Wehrmacht. As such, it supports the immersive power of the game by quite a bit.

(Btw, Obersoldaten seem to represent waffen ss units. Their uniforms, aggressive voice acting and the idle unit chatter of OKW seem to suggest that. So they did exist, just under another name )

just give the incediaries to sturms

This. Sturms are perfect for this. They can't be spammed, they are combat engineers and they have assault rifles.

So OKW would be the only faction having both types of stock AI grenade? Don't really like the logic and I feel Relic dev as well.

Fuck immersion and i dont want to see them on sp's because the okw is really lacking in good ways to clear buildings at the moment. anyway the current nade is shit anyway and nobody in their right minds used them.

+1 to Sturmpioneers. Was also suggested back then in the alpha.

I too would like it on SPs. Makes sense with their concept and role perfectly. Always bothered me the Sturmpioneers can't toss grenades until vet 3. I mean, one would probably have a better chance assaulting a building with actual grenades and a bolt-action rifle over having just an automatic rifle...there's a reason why modern soldiers keep using the former while they've also got the latter.

I look at the Wehrmacht as a general depiction of the German army, while the OKW is an advanced attack force that has the best of the best.

How about just remove all nades from volks?

I heard you are mad about Germans being too strong?

L2P.

Sturms got stun nades. Maybe just make them 1 cp?

Sturms got stun nades. Maybe just make them 1 cp?

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+1 to giving incendiary grenades to Sturm Pioneers.

How about just remove all nades from volks?

How about Russia start issuing compulsory IQ tests before letting certain people on the internet.

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inc nades to sturms at vet 1?

The inc nades are probably best suited for Sturms. Just make them an upgrade like molotovs.

volks with incendiary and grens with normal nades, sturmpios with bundles at vet replacing this shit stun nade they have