You said no artillery, I corrected you.
You can't say free and priced at the same time.
Free as in built.
Again, 45 muni is nothing for what is does
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You said no artillery, I corrected you.
You can't say free and priced at the same time.
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the basic churchill is good enough to do signinfacnt damage for its cost it hsould have is2 health and armor minus the is2 firepower not more hp than the a lot more expensive heavies i think the basic churchill should have 1050 health and avre and churchill 800
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You said no artillery, I corrected you.
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Axis should breathe a sigh of relief in the fact that they don't have to face RNG
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Something you guys may be overlooking is that, because the HP is so high, it takes a long time to repair these tanks. A bad engagement will mean the tank will be out of action for a long time, even if you didn't destroy it.
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And you know what would that translate to?
~1600 health with current armor.
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Except... it doesn't.
There's a huge difference between a high health and high armor unit.
It means
Doctrinal wise Axis may rely on designated "super high" pen units, which won't work properly vs. this unit.
Same goes for flanking. A high hp pool is way less prone to flanking / rear armor shots.
Just think about this for a second: you need twice the rear armor shots on a Churchill, in comparison to a KV series, or any other "Heavy". Not 5... 10 penetrated rear armor shots. That's not a slight difference anymore.
And last but not least: Relic use, more or less, certain HP values for certain tank classes, and those < 40 ton Churchills just don't fit in with 1600hp, at all.
It's not intuitive, and doesn't make any sense either.
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Late war churchills outclass KV-1 by a long shot in both, armament and armor, frontal armor specifically, MK VII had more then Tiger on the front.That doesn´t proof anything. The Kingtiger is stuck with IS-2 frontal armor, despite having more.
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That doesn´t proof anything. The Kingtiger is stuck with IS-2 frontal armor, despite having more.
The health pool of 1600 seems random and way too large. We have Panthers with the HP of a T-34/85... no justification to introduce a unit with a third to twice more the hitpoints of its counterparts (KV, IS-2, Tiger).
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I think the normal chruchill isnt that bad, but the other two variants...
Its a very VERY low risk, guaranteed reward unit.
You drive up under AT gun fire, kill a few models/weapon teams, reverse, repair.
Unless they have mines or a few units with TWP then youre fine to just keep harassing with it.
Ostheer are fine to deal with them imo. But since the only OKW stunshot is on a puma, and their infantry lack snares, they struggle abit more imo.
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It actually makes a difference only when fighting guaranteed penetration units like PaK43, ele or JT.
In that case, HP is better.
...True that, but that only further proves my point, multiple fast firing lighter AT units are better against them then single big slow firing ones with huge penetration.
Relic simply went for asymmetry here.
If they went with the "old way", we'd have 1040 hp 350-375 armor churchills.
Late war churchills outclass KV-1 by a long shot in both, armament and armor, frontal armor specifically, MK VII had more then Tiger on the front.
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