Panzerwerfer - the forgotten Ostheer arty

Jump back to quoted post29 Aug 2015, 16:39 PMAlexzandvar

Give it it's original rocket amount of 16 back.

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2015, 17:20 PMwarthog

cant believe some axis crack addicts want to "revive" this beast.

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2015, 14:20 PMJunaid

1) Increase rockets fired to 16 like it used to be but keep the dmg profile as is now. Don't touch reload. (used to do 160 dmg, now 80)

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2015, 15:46 PMRobbie_Rotten

You can't move it to T3 without making massive changes, like moving the PIV to T4 or something equally as dumb.

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2015, 19:48 PMMr. Someguy

Yes you can? T1 used to have 4 units, T2 has 4 units, T3 can have 4 units. That leaves T4 with 2, but T4 is a bonus tier so having 2 heavy-hitters isn't a bad thing. 90% of people go T4 for the Panther alone.

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2015, 16:17 PMJunaid

I'm afraid your knowledge is wrong there chap. It has 160 hp. Meaning it dies to one shot, just like katyusha. Its only saving grace is the small amount of armor on it, but that just protects it from small arms. You probably confused it with the Walking stuka (Thats OKW mate)

Source: http://www.coh2-stats.com/vehicles

Edit: If you did see it take two shots, it was probably in the defensive-bonus area of a command tank; but that's a rare and unusual circumstance.

If it could actually take two shots (like the 251 HT) people would find it much easier to use

Jump back to quoted post29 Aug 2015, 17:00 PMJonky

With the Stuka I find that advantage is at least even, and the LefH really isn't as bad as people make it out to be; Allies have a harder time countering it than Axis and it is decently strong.

I'd be interested to see T3 Panzerwerfer, I feel getting it out early would be really risky instead of a normal tank as most people still have their M5's/Stuarts to sneak and kill it.
I just don't get it often enough in T4 to judge it's performance. If I have T4 up then Panthers are swallowing my popcap.

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2015, 16:16 PMJunaid

Infact, to fine tune my earlier suggestion:

Move it to hq but require either BP3 or T3 building built. That way guys who go T3 won't have to pay extra 45 fuel for BP3.

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2015, 20:43 PMRobbie_Rotten

Then you would never see T4 because you have strong Anti Infantry, a strong general tank, a strong TD, and a strong anti static position.

Before you bring up soviet T3 1. The units are paper or not very mobile, 2. I think soviet t3 needs a bigger delay.

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2015, 20:54 PMMr. Someguy

Again, T4 is a bonus tier. You get a heavy AI and heavy AT unit. The Sturmpanzer IV needs a bit of a cost reduction, but the Panther is one of the best tanks in the game so it's fine.

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2015, 20:58 PMRobbie_Rotten

Then put the T34-76 back in soviet T3 and raise the price. There, not both factions have T4 bonus tier.

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2015, 21:04 PMMr. Someguy

T4 Soviet isn't a bonus tier, it's equivalent to Ostheer T3. I don't know what you're trying to do, deflect?

If Soviets had a building with a stock T-34/85 (that was stronger than the current version) and an ISU-122, maybe you could compare them.

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2015, 20:51 PMRobbie_Rotten

Soviets have a hard time. Using it against USF is dumb because pretty much every commander has an offmap + non doctrinal recon.

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2015, 21:15 PMRobbie_Rotten

The Panzerwerfer is a powerful unit. It belongs in the power tier.