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That's not unusual for T0, the main difference is that their T1 / T2 come later rather than immediately.
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thats a big bummer especially if axis have MGs (which can now insta-suppress) they can call out at T0 and meanwhile USF have MG's locked in T2 which is quite problematic...
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if that is the case then why did relic bother creating heavy tank skins for USF in the first place? as a previous poster said it'd be a waste of time and money for them to do it if they are not going to do it at all.
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little bit late here but relic hasn't necessarily created any textures. the camouflage is done off a base pattern and then laid out in the UVW unwrap. if there aren't any heavy models there isn't any unwraps for them and therefore there isn't any textures. the slot itself doesn't mean anything as there doesn't have to be models for there to be a slot and the only reason the slot is there for USF at this point is because it's there for every other faction, which has heavies right now and it would require work to remove the slot. also, it builds hype.
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pff, you think I need a heavy tank as USF? what would that solve? nothing, all i need is riflemen with rifle gremades.
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still someone must have done the work to make it right? i mean you and i both know that it costs time and money...
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that's what i mean, just because USF has the slot doesn't mean it cost them anything and thus doesn't mean that USF will get heavy tanks. it's cheaper for them to leave the slot then it is to remove it, especially since it leaves it open in case they DO add heavies.
the default settings for each faction have a heavy tank texture slot so removing it would require more work then just leaving it, in addition to the other minor advantages to leaving it.
given that we have seen a model of the pershing (i don't know if anyone has tested it out with the USF heavy camos) there is a good possibility that the pershing will be added, even more so if the heavy camos work with it.
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true but its was classified as a heavy tank up until korea but nevertheless it will probably be like as you said; an allied panther
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No. It was renamed to medium in 46', not till Korea.
So in the end you have tanks designed as a medium, based on medium prototype, which was renamed to heavy to increase morale, and then in 46' renamed again to medium.
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oh...i did not know that 0_0 well it appears I was "half" right
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It's also worth noting that US Doctrine didn't account for "Heavy Tanks" at the time so the designation officially didn't exist. M26 is closer to the Tiger in terms of Firepower, Armor and Mobility. Howver Just like the Panther its largely a case of interpretation and semantics.
Does anyone still has the leaked pics? Or is it NDA'd?
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Because the pictures were taken in the Alpha and feature units that do not exist in the retail game files., they fall under NDA.
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USF will be a forgotten army after the UKF, not sure if new commanders will come out though. I think Relic might allow Pershings for Mods.
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It still had a significant engagement range advantage. Yet it gets outranged by SU-85s in this game. So that evens out. Also if we go down that lane, the T-34 shouldn´t be able to hit reliably and have poor vision range etc. The T-34 lacked in any regard but numbers and mobility.
Also worth noting the Tiger in CoH2 has exaggerated durability compared to real-life, it only had about 40mm more armour than a Panzer IV Model H. Realistically a T-34/85 or Easy Eight would be able to consistently penetrate it frontally at closer ranges. Not that the Tiger wasn't good, it aged fairly well for a Heavy Tank from 1942, just not as well as CoH2's portrayal.
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It still had a significant engagement range advantage. Yet it gets outranged by SU-85s in this game. So that evens out. Also if we go down that lane, the T-34 shouldn´t be able to hit reliably and have poor vision range etc. The T-34 lacked in any regard but numbers and mobility.
Also: Why does the 1941 KV deflect Panther shells? This Russian tank is totally exaggerated.
The Tiger has a shit survivability in this game, since they took any survivability buff from its vet.
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I haven't read of any post by Relic stating they never and Pershing in the game, only that they don't have any plans on the subject. At best this can mean they originally wanted to but ultimately decided to cut it from the final game.
makes me wonder why relic bother to put them into the game in the first place if they will be forgotten so easily
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