assault engineers

Jump back to quoted post22 Apr 2015, 16:31 PMBurts

Armor is now the best 1v1 doctrine by far.

Even if assault engineers spawned without guns, they would still be worth it because of the democharges.

vehicle crews are pretty bad but they are good sometimes.

M10s are beast this patch. You can realistically get 2-3 M10s for every axis vehicle on the field. Just spam them and drive everything over.

Bulldozers are great.

250mm arty has its uses for dislodging axis camp blobs.


In 2v2 airborne is still better i guess.

Jump back to quoted post22 Apr 2015, 17:01 PMBrachiaraidos

But of course. A 4 man squad with no armour to speak of and trashy vet facing axis squads designed to murder 6 men squads, armed with an SMG that drops off DPS even faster than a PPSH.

They're just so strong! That's why we see Assault Engie spam all the time and it wrecks face, right? They're so much better than, say, sprinting 5 man Assault Grenadiers, which are also mad OP.

Or sturmpios/pgrens and their great vet and being allowed to do damage at longer than 3 feet.

Jump back to quoted post22 Apr 2015, 16:22 PMGdot

Lets make one of the strongest offensive unit (and a call in unit) even stronger!! This is a good example of why people argue that low ranked players should not comment on balance.

Jump back to quoted post22 Apr 2015, 17:22 PMWingZero

Don't even talk about low ranked players. I have faced you before in 4 v 4 and your AT team and you guys played terribly. I have faced your m8s multiple time and destroyed them in every single game. I am lower rank than you are. Everyone is free to input their opinion here.

Thompson would make the AE become relevant in late game, but I am really liking this 5 man idea with Vet 3 instead.

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2015, 01:35 AMZombiFrancis

Any sub-6-man squad has trouble staying alive after tanks.

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2015, 02:57 AMAssaultPlazma

Where did this idea of only getting a second man with vet instead of by default come from?

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2015, 03:01 AMdaspoulos

Well assault engineers aren't even that bad, so the whole 5th man at vet just like rear ech seemed like a good alternative.

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2015, 03:03 AMAssaultPlazma

??????

Why should they need to get to Vet 2? (obviously if they were given a fifth man by default you would have to adjust DPS to compensate)

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2015, 04:29 AMdaspoulos

Something about fighting off shocks without armor at the start doesn't sound appealing when usf already has the best early game in the world. I think a vet 2 for 5 men or nothing at all seems fine. While poor old assault grens are 5 men yet still have worse dps than an engineer squad that costs the exact same.

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2015, 08:44 AMSteinerGER

Arent all short range units hard to use except shocks? How about Sturmpioniere, Panzergrenadiere? The only saving grace for tehm is is the ability to repair/wield panzerschreck if shit hits the fan.
Give every short range unit smoke grenades and 1.3 armour and we are fine.

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2015, 09:25 AMFaustCostBulletin

Panzergrenadiers are not a close range unit.