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IRC when it first came out it was free and stopped all resource income for as long as it was alive
Now it has a front loaded MP only cost, and reduces income afterwards
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Don't forget about the 50% receive damage modifier which made it have double HP.
I'm interested why they never work with this concept with all the heavies in order to "balance" them in comparison to mediums. Give them more HP but increase the damage modifiers so you take longer to repair them.
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Don't forget about the 50% receive damage modifier which made it have double HP.
I'm interested why they never work with this concept with all the heavies in order to "balance" them in comparison to mediums. Give them more HP but increase the damage modifiers so you take longer to repair them.
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... Wait, the Ace only takes half damage, too?
This is ridiculous. At this point I wish they'd just literally made it a Vet 3 regular tiger that cost more fuel than a regular tiger.
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It's argued that this would also give faster Veterancy to anything that hurts them. I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing though.
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The xp value of the unit remains the same.
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Experience comes from damage done, so if a Tiger II has more health but 50% more damage, that's also 50% more experience to any unit that attacks it. 2 hits on that would be equal to 3 hits on a normal vehicle.
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Notice that i'm not 100% sure how xp works.
Shouldn't a Tiger with 100hp and 100xp value give the same xp than a Tiger with 200hp, x2 receive damage and 100xp value ?
While thinking again, they would also gain more xp from damage receive though.
I guess i'll should just ask how xp works in detail.
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Veterancy is not related to the "xp kickers" you see come up when something dies, units gain veterancy from dealing and receiving damage.
XP in general counts towards command points
iirc
If I remember correctly, there are a number of factors that determine vet gain: the cost of the unit doing damage, the cost of the unit being damaged and the amount of damage done. That's why shreked volks vet so quickly; they're a fairly cheap squad doing large damage to more expensive vehicles.
I kind of remember them adding a mechanic where lower vet squads gain vet faster when damaging higher vet squads but I could be wrong about that. Someone please correct me if any of this is wrong though, my memory is fuzzy on it.
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no, at launch it had 50% or maybe even 100& extra damage and 50% less incoming damage. Thats why you saw it oneshotting r twoshotting every atgun pretty much. They removed the silly damage modifiers and gave it a less punishing malus
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The PTRS's are fine as they are. Whenever i'm up against Guard Infantry, I always have to be careful with my vehicles or the Guards will completely destroy them. Good range, good damage and fairly cheap; if anything, the PTRS should nerfed since it's ridiculously good for the price. Even in the hands of Conscripts, the PTRS's are extremely potent.
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