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Exactly. I'm quite surprised nobody mentioned this. Who preserves a kubel more than 10 minutes from game start? Don't tell me Helping Hans or such. I don't think we are discussing at that level. It's not comparable to any infantry unit including maxim, which can be usefull all the game.
That is why it's not OP. Not by far.
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LoL'd at all da fanboys defending this thing...
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LoL'd at all da fanboys condemning this thing...
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before calling people fanboy, how much games you have played with allies?
Bet I can count it on one hand
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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As someone who has been using Kubels since alpha, I would not be adverse to a 5 or even 10 fuel cost if I can keep it as it is. I mean it's not as if it will set you back too hard on teching, who ever builds more than one per game anyway?
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LoL'd at all da fanboys defending this thing...
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after the patch, you would be surprised
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Im not this unit bears a striking resemblance to the do2 sentinel. vehicle that dies to infantry firepower simply cease to be effective as time goes on. This unit is similar to the maxim : a high mobility mg with a narrow arch. now that soviets have a taste of it they suddenly complain about it.
so i suggest you 1 adept and 2 destroy the kubel with at or massive amount of firepower while your squads semi circle it or light vehicles . a technique i use often vs the maxim also works on the kubel.
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The idea behind buffing the Kubel was to eliminate the unit's redundancy against the Soviets (A faction the Kubel really feels lacking against) as well as give it some late game potential against the Americans.
I've played against it a few times and I've played with it post-change and I quite like it. It's a farcry from the disposable insta-harass-and-expect-to-lose-by-the-fifth-minute-mark vehicle which almost always ended up dying extremely early against both factions.
I admit, it may have been a little overbuffed but I think that could be offset with a manpower increase to maybe 280ish. I think, in terms of effectiveness, its in the perfect place at the moment although it is really cheap for what it does. At higher levels, it's still really easy to kill with early game vehicle rushes and good micro/flanking. Every game I've been up against the Kubel has generally amounted in me killing it within the first 5 minutes at least.
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Sir Albus speaks wisely. +1
I suggest that you learn what you are talking about first because I posted many threads and topics before about how to fix maxim spam abuse and the last thing I want to see is more mg abuse in the game. And the kubel is a problem mainly for the USF more than soviets.
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oh this is good news if vonivan is protesting it means it must be severely hurting all the cheese the soviets have.
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Protesting? I think it's fine as is for the most part imo. Barely even a complaint really.
You must be another fanboi sympathizer on this forum.
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