Currently the mg34 performs better than the mg42 but is the cheapest and requires no tech while being available at 1cp.
Suggestion are : price increase to 240mp
or change to 2cp
Or slight nerf to bring it inline with its price, cp and teching requirements.
Thoughts?
mg34 needs a price increase or a small nerf
31 Aug 2014, 21:50 PM
#1
Posts: 210
31 Aug 2014, 21:59 PM
#2
Posts: 2819
It is not better than an HMG, it just suppresses faster.
All posts made are about situations in 2v2's. Not a 1v1 player.
31 Aug 2014, 22:10 PM
#3
Posts: 210
Isnt suppression the core purpose of hmg's in coh2?
31 Aug 2014, 22:19 PM
#4
Posts: 1439
Is it really cheaper? Never noticed to be honest.
If it is, then regular price of 240 would be appropriate as its performance has been adjusted.
If it is, then regular price of 240 would be appropriate as its performance has been adjusted.
31 Aug 2014, 22:37 PM
#5
Posts: 332
It's only 210, so only 30MP difference, I think people only feel it's over performing due to how bad the MG42 is for 240MP, as it does perform better than the MG42, and vets faster (mostly due to its cost)
31 Aug 2014, 22:40 PM
#6
Posts: 365
i agree, the fact that its cheaper doesnt make any sense. it needs to cost atleast as much if not more.
31 Aug 2014, 23:07 PM
#7
Posts: 1026
Yeah 240mp would be fine. They're damn cheap for how good they are in their role. Not good enough to require a nerf but there's no reason for it to be cheaper than the baseline MG cost.
31 Aug 2014, 23:18 PM
#8
Posts: 158
Mg 34 does indeed supress very fast - ands thats basicly all you need it to do.
The Price and the call in function make them very spamable. I too do think a nerf/cost increase is due .
I also agree that mg42 is terrible ( at vet 0/1 )
The Price and the call in function make them very spamable. I too do think a nerf/cost increase is due .
I also agree that mg42 is terrible ( at vet 0/1 )
31 Aug 2014, 23:34 PM
#9
Posts: 1248
guys guys lets not forget the mg34 is a doctrinal HMG.
1 Sep 2014, 00:28 AM
#10
Posts: 39
It's way underpriced at 210 MP, doctrinal or not. I always steal these whenever I get the chance. The DSHK is doctrinal and it's over 300 MP.
1 Sep 2014, 00:30 AM
#11
Posts: 1963 | Subs: 1
How about swapping the stats of the MG42 and MG34? That way it will fit the price of both MGS very well.
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1 Sep 2014, 00:44 AM
#12
Posts: 99
It really bothers me how the MG34, both the light and the heavy one, seem to outperform the MG42. :/
Even if they decided not to touch the balance I wished they swap around the model of both weapons.
Even if they decided not to touch the balance I wished they swap around the model of both weapons.
1 Sep 2014, 00:45 AM
#13
Posts: 1963 | Subs: 1
It really bothers me how the MG34, both the light and the heavy one, seem to outperform the MG42. :/Don't you love how the LMG34 is 2x better than LMG42. Did you know the LMG34 is the best weapon for shock troops to pick up other than a panzerschreck?
Even if they decided not to touch the balance I wished they swap around the model of both weapons.
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1 Sep 2014, 03:34 AM
#14
Posts: 589
-Increase price to 240MP
-Buff MG42
-Buff MG42
1 Sep 2014, 05:35 AM
#15
Posts: 122
Hmgs don't make sense in coh 2. How is the maxim better or even equal to the mg42? It's WWI vs WWII.....
The mg34 should theoretically be a cheaper and inferior gun to the mg42.
The olber mg34 is just a level 8 enchanted mg34, so of course it is a more powerful gun than the normal variants.
The mg34 should theoretically be a cheaper and inferior gun to the mg42.
The olber mg34 is just a level 8 enchanted mg34, so of course it is a more powerful gun than the normal variants.
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1 Sep 2014, 05:40 AM
#16
5 Posts: 1157 | Subs: 2
It is not better than an HMG, it just suppresses faster.
Which makes it better than the MG42. No one keeps a squad in MG42 fire to lose more than 1 model, its only purpose is to suppress.
I really don't think it needs a nerf but a small price increase is probably in order. Its pretty damn effective at 210 mp.
1 Sep 2014, 10:03 AM
#17
Posts: 542
A price increase to 240 manpower is ok just to bring it in line with others, realistically it won't have any impact in a game still as 30 manpower mean little in this game.
I don't see any reason for a nerf to its stats, it already is the worst in terms of damage and has a ridiculous long reload speed (which sometimes effectively turns the gun completely useless in a fight because the gun won't reload between fights, so it can run out of munition at the start of a fight and let the enemy just walk through the firing arc). It is also terrible in buildings compared to Maxim (never seen American HMG in building, but stats would indicate it should be similar).
As long as Maxim isn't touched, a nerf to MG34 shouldn't even be in question and MG42 should be brought in line with the MG34 rather than the other way around.
I don't see any reason for a nerf to its stats, it already is the worst in terms of damage and has a ridiculous long reload speed (which sometimes effectively turns the gun completely useless in a fight because the gun won't reload between fights, so it can run out of munition at the start of a fight and let the enemy just walk through the firing arc). It is also terrible in buildings compared to Maxim (never seen American HMG in building, but stats would indicate it should be similar).
As long as Maxim isn't touched, a nerf to MG34 shouldn't even be in question and MG42 should be brought in line with the MG34 rather than the other way around.
1 Sep 2014, 10:49 AM
#18
Posts: 1026
MG's reloading is a constant pain tbh. I once proposed that if an MG is out of combat for 10 seconds it should instantly reload. I'm not wedded to that exact amount of time, but I do stand by the idea.
We know for a fact they have a way to determine 'time out of combat' since ambush grenades operate using that exact metric.
We know for a fact they have a way to determine 'time out of combat' since ambush grenades operate using that exact metric.
1 Sep 2014, 11:57 AM
#19
Posts: 1701
Is doctrinal, so if your enemy went MG34, get an ISU or IS2 safely, there will be no Jagdtiger eating you from afar
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1 Sep 2014, 12:16 PM
#20
Posts: 210
A price increase to 240 manpower is ok just to bring it in line with others, realistically it won't have any impact in a game still as 30 manpower mean little in this game.
I don't see any reason for a nerf to its stats, it already is the worst in terms of damage and has a ridiculous long reload speed (which sometimes effectively turns the gun completely useless in a fight because the gun won't reload between fights, so it can run out of munition at the start of a fight and let the enemy just walk through the firing arc). It is also terrible in buildings compared to Maxim (never seen American HMG in building, but stats would indicate it should be similar).
As long as Maxim isn't touched, a nerf to MG34 shouldn't even be in question and MG42 should be brought in line with the MG34 rather than the other way around.
mg34 or maxim which one would you choose in a fight?
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