Elite Mod 3.0

He plans on reworking the British and Panzer Elite faction as well as overhauling the units from Tales of Valor and reintroducing the Tiger Ace.

Jump back to quoted post1 Nov 2014, 18:31 PMOktarnash

ITs just, so many of these changes, some things I had no idea existed in coh and i love how you changed it like the fucking PIO antispam bullshit, But why like reduced mp start for wehr, and random damage and accuracy stuff, like MP40 is fine as is, but some of this stuff.

Jump back to quoted post10 Aug 2014, 02:30 AM12ocky

Im going to Writte a Gigantic Wall of Text just to detail all of my opinions toward the changes, I dunno if this might help, but I feel like feedback would be good.
Great Change Should stay in.
Okay,I understand why, the change exists, but lets see how it plays out.
Should be removed, since doesn't add much, or anything at all, or unbalances stuff.
Full Changelog:
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Jump back to quoted post3 Nov 2014, 12:00 PMOktarnash

Yes I sugest we add an Italian fAction over random faction that are SS but aren't really.

Jump back to quoted post8 Nov 2014, 04:33 AMYoung Sandwich

Yeah but if you added an Italian faction and you wanted it to be historically accurate, its units would auto-retreat whenever attacked. Also the French. They would auto-retreat AND give all of their resource income to the other side.

Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2014, 10:40 AMCarlos Danger

Really interesting mod. Would definitely like to see PE changed because I think they're salvageable and could still make a good faction. Brits probably aren't ever going to work unless they're rebuilt from the ground up. I'll post a proposal on how I would fix the PE sometime soon.

As for the existing changes - and I know I'm totally being the peanut gallery here - I'd trim the list down a bit. Obviously the game has a lot of issues, but there are a lot of changes that you've made that are so minor that they'll probably never have any meaningful impact on balance at all. They come across, at least to me, as bloat.

Sorry if you don't like something I said in the above repply, just want to help

As for the existing changes - and I know I'm totally being the peanut gallery here - I'd trim the list down a bit. Obviously the game has a lot of issues, but there are a lot of changes that you've made that are so minor that they'll probably never have any meaningful impact on balance at all

* Mortars free fire (not barrage) cooldown reduced from 8-6s to 4-3sThis is kind of insane fire rate.

Would definitely like to see PE changed because I think they're salvageable and could still make a good faction.

I didn't notice the AI reworks for the lmg gren guy who keeps jumping our of cover are they still in?

we have a couple of thoughs, one of which is trucks not being abble to set up unless upgraded to.

Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2014, 12:37 PM12ocky

Everybody is entitled to his/her own opinion. And constructive feedback is always useful.



Well I know i could have left a lot of those out of the list and a person would never ever notice them.
For the sake of clarity and transparancy I wrote down every little change that was made.
Like someone should
The truth is most of those little changes, like Quad tables or certain weapons vs cover, are to bring them in line with their weapon class type. So a player knows exactly what to expect when firing at that unit or cover type. I think it's really important for gameplay that a unit/weapon/cover type does what you expect from it. Not that every weapon has it's own variables. (sometimes there are necessary exceptions ofc)
Still doesn't account for several other changes. On the account of the bike and jeep increase vs units in cover, sometimes light cover is all that stands between dead engineers when it comes to a bike, sure they are . changes but, they might make things feel annoying or weird.
@Oktarnash Also I don't think you fully understand some of the changes: for example
* Grenades now throw at combat slot building
which means: they throw grenades at the combat slot of a building.
Combat slot = doorway or window or w/e the target is standing in.
Oh Okay
Nope, it's still really really slow. Just test it. There is windups and winddowns etc

Mortars aren't all that great seriously man. When was the last time you have seen a mortar be worth it's cost in high level 1v1. This is still vCoh, not campy OMG mod we are talking about.
Mortars are good, snipers are just better, maybe if people used them more we could be in a position to maybe change damage a little more
And Italian faction? Are you trolling me? xp That's never gonna happen. At least not in this mod.
IT NEEDS TO, god dammit