July 22 Patch Notes

Jump back to quoted post23 Jul 2014, 04:27 AMMathias_Bras

I decided to do some testing for some hard numbers:

Jump back to quoted post22 Jul 2014, 23:42 PMausterlitz

This one is complex i have to say.

Lets start with OKW -when i was reading the units changes i felt ok RIP to what was already the weakest faction (except high team games).I mean took away obers,last counter to maximspam in ISG.

BUT crucial change in 100% munitions..we don't have any idea what this is going to do to the meta.Also a slight buff on the luchs.
A MAJOR buff on the mg-34.Lets see if this helps vs maximspam.

Overall excited abt this new OKW-only disappointment-nothing on the panther.

USA-

Very good timely changes .Need to see if halftrack small nerf works.
Atleast the jeep and vet 2 got fixed.
Deserved change on pack howie and mortar halftrack.
Like teh stuart change-everybody gets truck and this should help diversify hopefully.
Overall it highly depends on how useful halftrack nerf is-if it works wehr might finally have more of a chance.However nothing was done to us blobbing.Easy eight will need future adjustments for OKW i'm willing to bet.

SoVIET -

Spot on changes to katyusha and isu.

WEHRMACHT -

Imo greatest failing of this patch..its like faction wa scompletely ignored.
Still same huge teching costs.
Large numbers of useless units due to this,among them FHT,brumm,werfer.
Panzergrenadiers still useless.
Most of all panthers still useless and elefant still useless..the 1 tank endgame is again encouraged.Farcical stuff here.

Jump back to quoted post23 Jul 2014, 07:29 AMNorthWestFresh

Ostheer is the best most rounded out faction in the game there is absolutely no problem with teching costs and tier4 except that its not that attractive only because stupid op call ins come way too early its a completely different issue. and call ins come too fast for all factions period.

Jump back to quoted post23 Jul 2014, 07:39 AMShadowTreasurer

If all heavy tank callins were 2 CP more, then Ostheer teching would be very balanced.

The problem is that Soviets can do T1 and T2, and hold for call ins, getting better tanks at cheaper fuel. At 20 mins an ISU can be called in.

By the time Ostheer can get a P4 and a panther, the soviets will already have an ISU a few mins earlier easily...

That's the main problem. Increasing the CP of heavy tank call ins is the best way to balance it imo.

It benefits all factions to just increase heavy tank CP by 2. 20 minute heavy tanks is bad.

Ostheer also maybe needs its sniper, 250 and ostruppen looked at, but they are minor issues.

Jump back to quoted post23 Jul 2014, 07:46 AMPorygon

Teching cost and time is the biggest issue of Ostheer, I will stay away from it until they tweak it. After Rifles AT nade becomes working, there is not much hope left in Ostheer vs USF matchup, the M15AA wasn't the biggest nightmare of Ostheer, the vet 2 Rifles, CP0 clown car and M20 can defeat Ostheer very fast.

Jump back to quoted post23 Jul 2014, 07:39 AMShadowTreasurer

If all heavy tank callins were 2 CP more, then Ostheer teching would be very balanced.

The problem is that Soviets can do T1 and T2, and hold for call ins, getting better tanks at cheaper fuel. At 20 mins an ISU can be called in.

By the time Ostheer can get a P4 and a panther, the soviets will already have an ISU a few mins earlier easily...

That's the main problem. Increasing the CP of heavy tank call ins is the best way to balance it imo. Saving up for heavy tanks should be more risky and longer to get. It benefits all factions to just increase heavy tank CP by 2. 20 minute heavy tanks is bad.


Ostheer also maybe needs its sniper, 250 and ostruppen looked at, but they are minor issues.

Jump back to quoted post23 Jul 2014, 07:47 AM__deleted__

Good changes overall.
Drastic change with the amo income indeed. It sounds nice but let's see what it gives. I hope it will not create inbalance.
One thing I don't understand. Why buffing katiusha and pzwerfer not? PzWerfer needed a buff more than katiusha.

Jump back to quoted post23 Jul 2014, 07:50 AMNorthWestFresh

I own U.S. very easily with Ostheer imo Ostheer best faction in the game easily. They didn't get anychanges becuase they don't need them. Yes U.S. has a slight early advantage but its no problems if you don't play stupid and then mid to late game is U.S. rape time no joke.

Jump back to quoted post23 Jul 2014, 09:02 AMrezzzzen

I played a little bit with the elite rifle company commander, i called in cca 6 rifles and noone had vet2, all of them were vet1. bad luck or you cant get vet2 rifles anymore ?

Jump back to quoted post23 Jul 2014, 09:07 AMCruzz

[...]the OKW flak halftrack apparently got its setup time increased by 50%, because you know, Relic. The penalty gets removed again at vet2 because, you know, Relic.

Jump back to quoted post23 Jul 2014, 06:45 AMwooof

the officer is still useful. it gives small arms a 10% accuracy bonus, which means all your infantry will do 10% more dps, but doesnt help mortars/support gun much.